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* Diversification [ branched from Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile]
@ 2019-10-20  6:10 Todor Kondić
  2019-10-20  6:14 ` John Cowan
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 75+ messages in thread
From: Todor Kondić @ 2019-10-20  6:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pelzflorian (Florian Pelz); +Cc: guile-user@gnu.org

On Friday, 18 October 2019 17:09, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) <pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:29:35AM +0000, Todor Kondić wrote:
>
> > You know, there is a big IT department within our institution and telling them I will base some serious work on technologies such as GNU Guile and Guix did raise a few eyebrows (those not raised are probably the cause of their proprietors not being informed enough).
> > […]
> > Couple of notes:
> >
> > 1.  Are there any ladies on these lists? I am dying to hear from them
> > 2.  Related to (1) ... a brief look at the maintainers who signed the Joined Statement gives an impression that it leans heavily to the politically Western hemisphere; just a comment, maybe food for thought
> > 3.  The RMS scandal was brought to my attention by a female coder colleague who previously knew nothing of RMS's, or FSF's or GNU's work in the "Open Source Community"; another nibble for thought
>
> There have been few contributions from women,
> e.g. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2017-03/msg00042.html
> (I do not know what its status is), but I believe bringing GNU Guile
> to professional use could help diversify. Thank you for that!
>
> Regards,
> Florian

Hi Florian,

Thanks for the kind words.

The problem of diversification goes way beyond the eccentric, or repugnant (choose at your leasure) views of certain prominent members of our "community".
I've set up my workflows around Guix, git(lab) and a customised Emacs installation (instead of R Studio). My small team of science students (majority female, various cultural backgrounds), never previously exposed to a GNU system to such an extent, managed to get a handle on it quite impressively.

But, I doubt any of them would find it natural to take a step further and participate in GNU itself (ugh, now I sound like a preacher of a new age religion). To my knowledge, interaction within GNU communities is still mostly mailing lists and IRC. This _not_ my students' natural digital habitat. I am probably not saying anything new, though ...





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2019-10-20  6:10 Diversification [ branched from Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] Todor Kondić
2019-10-20  6:14 ` John Cowan
2019-10-21  6:35   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-10-21 13:45     ` Amirouche Boubekki
2019-10-23  6:16   ` Amirouche Boubekki
2019-10-23  6:27     ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-23  6:48     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 10:37       ` Chris Vine
2019-10-23 11:25         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 12:33           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 13:47             ` tomas
2019-10-23 14:10               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 19:09                 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-23 19:26                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 19:19             ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-24  1:01               ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-24  9:19                 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-24  9:35                 ` mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p (was: Diversification) Amirouche Boubekki
2019-10-24 12:30                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-24 14:15                     ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-24 16:39                       ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-24 23:42                         ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-25  1:39                     ` mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p Mike Gerwitz
2019-10-26  7:48                       ` tomas
2019-10-26 10:35                         ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-26 11:34                           ` tomas
2019-10-27  4:50                         ` Mike Gerwitz
2019-10-27  5:32                           ` Mike Gerwitz
2019-10-27  8:50                             ` tomas
2019-10-27  8:36                           ` tomas
2019-10-27 14:26                           ` Keith Wright
2019-10-27 19:28                             ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-25  6:08                     ` mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p (was: Diversification) pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-25  6:23                       ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-26  4:31                       ` mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p Mike Gerwitz
2019-10-26  9:35                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-26 11:31                           ` tomas
2019-10-24 13:32                   ` mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p (was: Diversification) tomas
2019-10-24 15:03                     ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-24 15:12                       ` tomas
2019-10-24 16:35                         ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-26  8:04                           ` tomas
2019-10-26  9:42                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-26 11:31                               ` tomas
2019-10-25 11:30                       ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-25 12:53                         ` Nala Ginrut
2020-09-05  6:15               ` Diversification [ branched from Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] Joshua Branson via General Guile related discussions
2020-09-05 11:50                 ` Web development Zelphir Kaltstahl
2020-09-05 13:09                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-28 11:04             ` mailman web interface (was: Diversification) pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-07-08 12:32               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-09-05  6:21                 ` mailman web interface Joshua Branson via General Guile related discussions
2020-09-05  7:53                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-09-05 13:32                     ` Joshua Branson
2019-10-23 13:43         ` Diversification [ branched from Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] tomas
2019-10-23 17:39           ` Chris Vine
2019-10-23 19:58             ` Mailman web interface [was: Re: Diversification] pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 20:02           ` Diversification [ branched from Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-26  8:14             ` tomas
2019-10-26  9:03               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-26 11:26                 ` tomas
2019-10-26 13:02                   ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-26 15:23                     ` tomas
2019-10-26 16:47                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-26 17:09                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
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2019-10-28 15:41                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 13:45       ` tomas
2019-10-20  8:07 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-20  8:08   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-22 18:47 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-22 19:23   ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-22 20:51     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-10-22 23:24     ` Chris Vine
2019-10-23  0:57       ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-23  6:44         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)

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