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From: Mike Gerwitz <mtg@gnu.org>
To: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 01:32:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mudmrbw9.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zhhmssfq.fsf@gnu.org> (Mike Gerwitz's message of "Sun, 27 Oct 2019 00:50:17 -0400")

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On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 00:50:17 -0400, Mike Gerwitz wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 09:48:37 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>>> Passing session tokens via GET requests is a bad idea, because that
>>> leaks the token.
>>
>> Even in https?

[...]

> Back in what feels like a previous lifetime by now, I used to do a lot
> of work with phpBB2, which had an option to either store sessions in
> cookies or place PHPSESSID in the URL.  It modified every link to
> include a session id.  It tried to mitigate the issue by checking the
> source IP address, but if you were logged on the same network (e.g. in
> the same place of employment; school; library; etc), then sharing a link
> would lead to session hijacking.

Since I was in the mindset of leaking information, I forgot to mention
another negative side-effect of including tokens as query strings: it
can turn link sharing into a weapon using session fixation.  E.g. I
could create an account, send a link to you with my session token, and
you may then be logged into my account.  The user may then perform an
action that may benefit the attacker (or the action could be part of the
URL).

This is sometimes used as a poor-man's SSO. :x  It can also work with
POSTs: direct the user to an auto-submitting form.

Cookies are better suited for storing session tokens---you cannot set
cookie values for other domains without some other type of exploit
(e.g. XSS, but your cookies best be set to HTTP-only to mitigate that).

-- 
Mike Gerwitz

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-27  5:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-20  6:10 Diversification [ branched from Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] Todor Kondić
2019-10-20  6:14 ` John Cowan
2019-10-21  6:35   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-10-21 13:45     ` Amirouche Boubekki
2019-10-23  6:16   ` Amirouche Boubekki
2019-10-23  6:27     ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-23  6:48     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 10:37       ` Chris Vine
2019-10-23 11:25         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 12:33           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 13:47             ` tomas
2019-10-23 14:10               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 19:09                 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-23 19:26                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 19:19             ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-24  1:01               ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-24  9:19                 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-24  9:35                 ` mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p (was: Diversification) Amirouche Boubekki
2019-10-24 12:30                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-24 14:15                     ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-24 16:39                       ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-24 23:42                         ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-25  1:39                     ` mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p Mike Gerwitz
2019-10-26  7:48                       ` tomas
2019-10-26 10:35                         ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-26 11:34                           ` tomas
2019-10-27  4:50                         ` Mike Gerwitz
2019-10-27  5:32                           ` Mike Gerwitz [this message]
2019-10-27  8:50                             ` tomas
2019-10-27  8:36                           ` tomas
2019-10-27 14:26                           ` Keith Wright
2019-10-27 19:28                             ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-25  6:08                     ` mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p (was: Diversification) pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-25  6:23                       ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-26  4:31                       ` mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p Mike Gerwitz
2019-10-26  9:35                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-26 11:31                           ` tomas
2019-10-24 13:32                   ` mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p (was: Diversification) tomas
2019-10-24 15:03                     ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-24 15:12                       ` tomas
2019-10-24 16:35                         ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-26  8:04                           ` tomas
2019-10-26  9:42                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-26 11:31                               ` tomas
2019-10-25 11:30                       ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-25 12:53                         ` Nala Ginrut
2020-09-05  6:15               ` Diversification [ branched from Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] Joshua Branson via General Guile related discussions
2020-09-05 11:50                 ` Web development Zelphir Kaltstahl
2020-09-05 13:09                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-28 11:04             ` mailman web interface (was: Diversification) pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-07-08 12:32               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-09-05  6:21                 ` mailman web interface Joshua Branson via General Guile related discussions
2020-09-05  7:53                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-09-05 13:32                     ` Joshua Branson
2019-10-23 13:43         ` Diversification [ branched from Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] tomas
2019-10-23 17:39           ` Chris Vine
2019-10-23 19:58             ` Mailman web interface [was: Re: Diversification] pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 20:02           ` Diversification [ branched from Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-26  8:14             ` tomas
2019-10-26  9:03               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-26 11:26                 ` tomas
2019-10-26 13:02                   ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-26 15:23                     ` tomas
2019-10-26 16:47                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-26 17:09                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
     [not found]                         ` <874kzslwq0.fsf@elephly.net>
2019-10-28 15:41                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 13:45       ` tomas
2019-10-20  8:07 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-20  8:08   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-22 18:47 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-22 19:23   ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-22 20:51     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-10-22 23:24     ` Chris Vine
2019-10-23  0:57       ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-23  6:44         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)

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