From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Arne Babenhauserheide Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Diversification [ branched from Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 08:35:20 +0200 Message-ID: <87imoiip1z.fsf@web.de> References: <-IsD5PBFie-kW2VJSYNHx00LodtSHflKNWtY2vjNVQDN126iTMsqHrdxl8zeWE8a53TzM_27wskjsrylIh4bN5jIGVNYOBC6zmE3p1RGyBg=@protonmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="10499"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 26.1 To: guile-user@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 21 08:38:43 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iMRL0-0002bd-AY for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 08:38:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34750 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iMRKy-0001DS-Ac for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 02:38:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43157) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iMRI8-0001Aw-36 for guile-user@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 02:35:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iMRI2-0008JV-Eo for guile-user@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 02:35:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:43189) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iMRHz-0008HP-LL for guile-user@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 02:35:36 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1571639724; bh=cpfJGLZlef62xRCTCMFwhvwr1NIGKgts7XCTgDhEFGo=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date; b=aJM/qXN1D/cgYSl0EGmAC5XllDjo0nkTTMKL4BWYiiTjKsqSpsALOuZ94jPWTF51d KBpkxBIQl7vaNzynZKjzqbNri8KclYyvuzjmcrIaiM29PfJbYZPPF/vj5kKKGypps5 uCDTGGfAC39SP3lJzffOTcpcCmchGJFZCZraTatw= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Original-Received: from fluss ([80.136.28.233]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb101 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MV4TZ-1iW1Xl1qZx-00YSdJ; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 08:35:24 +0200 In-reply-to: X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ErKzseXbscYaDspHq/TEstYMriXydK9TV4u0Qmo1S8l3TGF/Sdn sEA2uu+1TSHgatccH/c3Pp//GTEMmV6cRVrvQWo3sAsUrB7FaF9DJA+TqdgoTkmLYL2BTA8 nSRG2z4ss0vLkeZwpJiAKb+ullAwqTAnFR6hjyCfCgnQsN4gRrR2+TfrPaLhRPgbqborqAw Vgl1w68iY5Vbc9LESjLCw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:5YVm+SCONoY=:JyJz9aE4nlNOkqA7SLAR8r Q7l2awKy0GQBd0k1ciOjpmt67JXB2NGrCB46fDJC7s5JJZ0emtf7mYKE18NLlj5lH/aBc7tJ+ G0DCA+BnPpM2CT0UgQCffaFcLT7XztG0yJ6xxUsXDL7e6m6hluqff3Yx/tTAqIGjx7u4EwWVl iBk/CeeE68AVF9qVjXavGZbH6eDg0UpSsmnOa5O/xRD6EuLjdBxmZ/aXPlU2nydG2VuMMRNPA JRnxtWQxstPUEW9NT0DVFNGGnYLs+P9Mu3lml7KoTU4ma+34iXMhcFT1KVUiPbKHax+TRYNrI w1aWvAyiOIJ95gUcJ9owLr3hPuuGrwx5VLgC1hnobICH0D8fLyniBlZWQym9oiIH1iW9ZmcYx XLnU//m+5f83jq7DVez0uMXPTKkgpXqHQFwHnBJfKoSYv+N6sdpbhMBrI85ZK2FnVRj1W++nM h4XCaDMD42L+iO0umwiHSsWW7IE9ZwXXz1geiP+Wx7RZBrYsdRGOUfpSi6LqlBB6q2Hpb80U4 KssFrNgblxnaNnTqnrToDEpeMg6X38tFsYcLnZIfgW173WTD+x7rbaKC8vCOlR4BQXXFKM5MG dCLfspq6Gz3mdbbMu4KSRo6y+ujfX8dD5GBVjvj49xWtCVk0rCiNnWai7amyIhZAmp7RM0wZP 9SzAEEO3Tji0inhaC+HfNc8PVsKUdUJMoPbNQe9CfAYRR543ehiIrHKkldF4wSnJ6N7KM1Mhj b3kXeggOMom3X1bKSxhiXbUwmxzOwNPjjqvT2EtWbnMPXMFBY/ntyDypJ/GhFb2Xbzwz3JgR X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.12 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:15778 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Cowan writes: > On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 2:11 AM Todor Kondi=C4=87 wrote: > >> But, I doubt any of them would find it natural to take a step further and >> participate in GNU itself (ugh, now I sound like a preacher of a new age >> religion). To my knowledge, interaction within GNU communities is still >> mostly mailing lists and IRC. This _not_ my students' natural digital >> habitat. > The only natural digital habitat of human beings is their fingers. All > else is learned, and more can be learned at any time. There's no reason > why students ought to be so closed to new experiences. That=E2=80=99s true, but even though I prefer IRC to new protocols, there is much it lacks. For example showing images inline. That=E2=80=98s a client-problem, but it=E2=80=99s real. Basically this sais that we=E2=80=99re the ones who are closed (often for g= ood reason, but those reasons need to be explained). 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