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From: Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de>
To: guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Diversification [ branched from Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile]
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 22:51:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r2347bbv.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <907270af-1f2f-42f3-ec36-047fdd48a74f@posteo.de>

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Zelphir Kaltstahl <zelphirkaltstahl@posteo.de> writes:
> To verify another person's device, one has to exchange information via a
> second trusted channel. That information is a sequence of icons being
> shown. If they are the same, that the other person sends you via the
> second trusted channel, you can reasonably assume, that the device you
> are communicating with is under their control.
>
> When it comes to the step of exchanging information about what icons are
> displayed, most people will close the app and say "it's too
> complicated", because they do not understand it ("Huh? How strange! Why
> I have to do that? Are icons secure?") or do not want to do anything in
> order to have security. They are not willing to invest as much as 5min

In Freenet we have the same problem. We once had someone start an app
that used tapping phones together to exchange references, but it did not
get developed further.

It nowadays lives under my account, but I don’t have the time to work on
it (or rather: other things have higher priority for me).

https://github.com/ArneBab/Icicle

Maybe someone can find a tool there to ease initial setup.

Also TOFU is something we desperately need more of. For example I
recently had two unrelated people writing to me by email and our
communication was encrypted automatically because they used enigmail
with autocrypt and pretty-easy-privacy.

Best wishes,
Arne
--
Unpolitisch sein
heißt politisch sein
ohne es zu merken

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-22 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-20  6:10 Diversification [ branched from Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] Todor Kondić
2019-10-20  6:14 ` John Cowan
2019-10-21  6:35   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-10-21 13:45     ` Amirouche Boubekki
2019-10-23  6:16   ` Amirouche Boubekki
2019-10-23  6:27     ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-23  6:48     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 10:37       ` Chris Vine
2019-10-23 11:25         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 12:33           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 13:47             ` tomas
2019-10-23 14:10               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 19:09                 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-23 19:26                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 19:19             ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-24  1:01               ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-24  9:19                 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-24  9:35                 ` mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p (was: Diversification) Amirouche Boubekki
2019-10-24 12:30                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-24 14:15                     ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-24 16:39                       ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-24 23:42                         ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-25  1:39                     ` mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p Mike Gerwitz
2019-10-26  7:48                       ` tomas
2019-10-26 10:35                         ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-26 11:34                           ` tomas
2019-10-27  4:50                         ` Mike Gerwitz
2019-10-27  5:32                           ` Mike Gerwitz
2019-10-27  8:50                             ` tomas
2019-10-27  8:36                           ` tomas
2019-10-27 14:26                           ` Keith Wright
2019-10-27 19:28                             ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-25  6:08                     ` mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p (was: Diversification) pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-25  6:23                       ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-26  4:31                       ` mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p Mike Gerwitz
2019-10-26  9:35                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-26 11:31                           ` tomas
2019-10-24 13:32                   ` mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p (was: Diversification) tomas
2019-10-24 15:03                     ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-24 15:12                       ` tomas
2019-10-24 16:35                         ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-26  8:04                           ` tomas
2019-10-26  9:42                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-26 11:31                               ` tomas
2019-10-25 11:30                       ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-25 12:53                         ` Nala Ginrut
2020-09-05  6:15               ` Diversification [ branched from Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] Joshua Branson via General Guile related discussions
2020-09-05 11:50                 ` Web development Zelphir Kaltstahl
2020-09-05 13:09                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-28 11:04             ` mailman web interface (was: Diversification) pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-07-08 12:32               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-09-05  6:21                 ` mailman web interface Joshua Branson via General Guile related discussions
2020-09-05  7:53                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-09-05 13:32                     ` Joshua Branson
2019-10-23 13:43         ` Diversification [ branched from Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] tomas
2019-10-23 17:39           ` Chris Vine
2019-10-23 19:58             ` Mailman web interface [was: Re: Diversification] pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 20:02           ` Diversification [ branched from Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-26  8:14             ` tomas
2019-10-26  9:03               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-26 11:26                 ` tomas
2019-10-26 13:02                   ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-26 15:23                     ` tomas
2019-10-26 16:47                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-26 17:09                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
     [not found]                         ` <874kzslwq0.fsf@elephly.net>
2019-10-28 15:41                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-23 13:45       ` tomas
2019-10-20  8:07 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-20  8:08   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-22 18:47 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-22 19:23   ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-22 20:51     ` Arne Babenhauserheide [this message]
2019-10-22 23:24     ` Chris Vine
2019-10-23  0:57       ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2019-10-23  6:44         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)

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