From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nala Ginrut Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: mailmam, web bridge, forum, p2p (was: Diversification) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:23:10 +0800 Message-ID: References: <20191023064813.6igo2qi2cwtcz5bz@pelzflorian.localdomain> <20191023113724.bf055453852ec206af8d7bef@gmail.com> <20191023112544.5s65wrzbexnlsj22@pelzflorian.localdomain> <20191023123343.wanooc44orpyo7tk@pelzflorian.localdomain> <20191024123023.rvedpc5uqrm5ku6v@pelzflorian.localdomain> <20191025060845.iu7cr5bwcjdsprhn@pelzflorian.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="102883"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Guile User To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 25 08:23:49 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iNt0n-000Qdh-2e for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 08:23:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55576 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iNt0l-00008R-VS for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 02:23:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34051) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iNt0P-0008O7-5b for guile-user@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 02:23:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iNt0N-00051D-Uj for guile-user@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 02:23:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yw1-xc2e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::c2e]:37089) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iNt0M-00050a-DJ; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 02:23:22 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yw1-xc2e.google.com with SMTP id v84so425432ywc.4; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 23:23:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xwES/p/zjGpbMXYdXRgNWdFFhklI1t2RealIlfGk8b4=; b=vJBzBtW6mW2WQ6xfHg1G4ybG9YWE0lIwkaf5sej9oP4X4K90IV9WObwPFcAI5vmpQd ajxHoeTOWUlgs19UyLdemRFOZbqIlomBpLCw8EY9dVq1daHu9oLtOoYgYIGrIS4LwKL6 OKEPAdOCJ3Dr85/xbDx2veg4xvZstEUwwQ+KycjNFhE+5TUNMPRZ6hDOQc98fZ9s513o n5L1kY+rb37oyOgoZ5/PpnESoCERrRE1w5M4qyqTA5M6/934XpVN9B+bVjSR3HX70FvP sEC67INEWiLeFoJ4PxCEVRBbooi0MiZCY8NkdKRyQz04NCqRyz0pnmxRQL1Xx2N3qEk9 vlmA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xwES/p/zjGpbMXYdXRgNWdFFhklI1t2RealIlfGk8b4=; b=QGHRH+LpkY1iSi/eG6+ejUEA7JufON1sZd91IGgCFdfn90EYzvFix/JMaQcwSLLAjG 4w9f2QhnlenZSKO8a8J9gaaDrGlQ92YFdMFCzxToy8kifuekv9cDJwVSgQmefFi+1rAr OahZuzmhytuQ+ZDAHmCT1fO6m1WjGKNcjWiXIuHmQJP0UdnHXZ7/uNLoHdSml7o8vdO5 5R3EhQd0bii4Y0YPPmdBTM+C+2DWUIfmWzjO5GZX4uUW37d+MHZi6VibuGk0VKlsMV94 6t28rayr1roHREN6p2h/tkEG+Wzjkiel/xqcqZMkAZ3RzcZ/AC9jurhDjZ8Kh+wkpTrx n2+g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWQgdzGaLkJlXQUv7Ue02XZhZ6eRrBNU7B7O3QLVTM7LIbiQRwu R+kEKJ7xe+avW0v9dbp1RepyvPMEdf4ba8lnDqw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzxVoRE+YDEs2NYku9yiDpVd2zgMggoO/paIFaG8kV7O/NuZCW+Fir0AoBSD63JdsVA7wfD2IdqgZWP8fXAVQI= X-Received: by 2002:a81:c8c:: with SMTP id 134mr940834ywm.205.1571984601219; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 23:23:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20191025060845.iu7cr5bwcjdsprhn@pelzflorian.localdomain> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::c2e X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:15838 Archived-At: On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) < pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 07:42:41AM +0800, Nala Ginrut wrote: > > Yes, you need to login if you change IP, but the last IP keeps session. > > Does checking the IP enhance security in any way? There are some > (few) reasons IPs may change. > We don't chase the effect that one policy solves all problems. Checking IP can only solve certain general problems. For example, the stolen token can not be used to login from another machine. > That is interesting, I did not think of that. Then again, browsing > the mailing list would be possible without login, i.e. without token, > so URLs would be clean for a search engine crawler. I do not know if > crawlers should ever have a session on other Artanis sites. > > I'm talking about the general cases since Artanis is not only for mailing-list browsing. The purpose is to explain why Artanis choose the policy. In Artanis, you may use a customized method for that. Best regards.