From: Catallaxy <catallaxy@protonmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: Guix-devel <Guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 23:49:40 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <nT-2oGUCqGNevd_dkZN7lFUkjKjux15cFvsNOgyn1QgeHaqjQcBa6wqLaLB65oHe5PAYFhmqmWbrPkmac43uTddEWBLk9mrVEySu09fJ83c=@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lftsp7an.fsf@gnu.org>
Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
> So it really isn’t about what
> “the media” said last week or the week before.
If this is the case then the timing of this move is really very unfortunate. If this is a decision many years in the making then it seems hard to imagine a worse time to publicly act on it than in the midst of the shockingly unfair media pile-on that RMS has been subjected to recently. Anyone looking from outside is of course going to conclude that this action is directly related to the recent and widely publicized public lynching of RMS and not a reaction to other past issues that have not been publicly discussed or disclosed.
> We must keep it striving and reach
> out to those who’ve not yet joined us to share the software!
If it somehow was not clear to you before that this action would drive some people away (including people who already are firmly aligned with the true values of the free software movement) then it should be apparent now. The only reason I'm commenting is to add a voice to emphasize this in the hope that if you failed to realize you would alienate people (which seems to be the opposite of your stated aim) that you will realize it now and reconsider your approach.
Freedom has many powerful enemies and I can't have confidence in GNU's ability to stand up to enemies like nation states and global corporations if it is led by people who can't even stand up to a rabid twitter mob and a bunch of agenda driven journalists spreading lies and misrepresentations.
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2019-10-07 14:32 Joint statement on the GNU Project Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-08 0:24 ` Jesse Gibbons
2019-10-08 1:59 ` Wilson Bustos
2019-10-08 8:19 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-08 10:32 ` Jan
2019-10-08 13:52 ` Jesse Gibbons
2019-10-10 3:51 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-10 20:12 ` Adam Pribyl
2019-10-08 14:37 ` Wilson Bustos
2019-10-10 3:55 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-10 3:48 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-10 3:46 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-08 8:34 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-08 8:48 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-08 11:17 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-10 4:01 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-10 4:00 ` Jean Louis
[not found] ` <87pnj5i3u2.fsf@elephly.net>
2019-10-10 5:17 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-10 14:29 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-10 16:56 ` Thorsten Wilms
2019-10-10 22:10 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-10 16:57 ` Stefan Huchler
2019-10-10 22:50 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-10 17:27 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-10 19:13 ` Svante Signell
2019-10-10 19:22 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-10 20:23 ` Svante Signell
2019-10-10 20:27 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-12 7:06 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-30 2:04 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-30 6:09 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-30 18:16 ` Thompson, David
2019-10-10 20:32 ` P
2019-10-10 20:51 ` Wilson Bustos
2019-10-10 21:03 ` Vasya Boytsov
2019-10-12 12:05 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-12 14:38 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-12 7:52 ` Jean Louis
[not found] ` <fa683d19-34ec-7b09-30a4-f4c139adf5ee@frantovo.cz>
[not found] ` <87h84gtig9.fsf@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <0936b8b2-ffbf-6370-71be-db24be1fd743@frantovo.cz>
[not found] ` <87r23jvi7n.fsf@gnu.org>
2019-10-11 8:53 ` František Kučera
2019-10-12 11:15 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-10 23:27 ` Quiliro Ordóñez
2019-10-11 8:03 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-12 12:19 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-12 12:27 ` Pierre-Henry F.
2019-10-10 3:57 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-10 8:43 ` Hartmut Goebel
2019-10-10 10:10 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-08 16:38 ` Dimakakos Dimos
2019-10-08 17:30 ` P
2019-10-08 19:17 ` Dimakakos Dimos
2019-10-10 4:11 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-08 20:18 ` zimoun
2019-10-10 4:15 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-09 8:56 ` Andy Wingo
2019-10-10 4:26 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-10 21:41 ` Arun Isaac
2019-10-10 21:53 ` Svante Signell
2019-10-10 22:24 ` František Kučera
2019-10-10 4:09 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-08 16:42 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-08 16:57 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-10-09 9:49 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-09 11:01 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-10-10 16:19 ` Mikhail Kryshen
2019-10-10 22:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-10 23:49 ` Catallaxy [this message]
2019-10-13 3:55 ` Mikhail Kryshen
2019-10-13 6:30 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-11 18:41 ` Taylan Kammer
2019-10-11 19:14 ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-10-11 21:09 ` Christophe Poncy
2019-10-12 14:43 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-11 23:04 ` Jelle Licht
2019-10-12 18:43 ` Taylan Kammer
2019-10-12 19:09 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2019-10-12 19:26 ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-10-12 20:11 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-12 19:26 ` P
2019-10-12 21:27 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-12 21:45 ` Alexander Vdolainen
2019-10-14 1:50 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-14 1:44 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-18 3:10 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-12 13:06 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-12 13:38 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-12 14:16 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-12 14:27 ` František Kučera
2019-10-12 17:22 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-12 17:37 ` P
2019-10-12 17:46 ` Wilson Bustos
2019-10-12 17:59 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-12 17:59 ` P
2019-10-12 18:22 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-12 18:31 ` P
2019-10-12 18:24 ` Wilson Bustos
2019-10-12 18:32 ` P
2019-10-12 19:04 ` Wilson Bustos
2019-10-12 19:24 ` P
2019-10-12 19:28 ` Wilson Bustos
2019-10-12 21:01 ` František Kučera
2019-10-12 21:23 ` Reminder about discussions on this list Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-12 20:52 ` Joint statement on the GNU Project František Kučera
2019-10-12 21:23 ` “do not add my address as an explicit recipient” (was: Joint statement on the GNU Project) Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-10-12 18:40 ` Joint statement on the GNU Project Jean Louis
2019-10-14 13:30 ` zimoun
2019-10-14 16:14 ` Wilson Bustos
2019-10-14 17:13 ` zimoun
2019-10-14 22:26 ` Wilson Bustos
2019-10-12 17:53 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-12 18:03 ` P
2019-10-12 18:14 ` P
2019-10-14 1:44 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-12 18:27 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-12 18:37 ` P
2019-10-12 18:54 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-12 19:20 ` P
2019-10-12 21:42 ` František Kučera
2019-10-12 19:33 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-14 1:44 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-14 7:51 ` František Kučera
2019-10-12 15:44 ` Wilson Bustos
2019-10-12 15:50 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-12 16:05 ` Eric Myhre
2019-10-12 16:13 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-13 17:24 ` Ingo Ruhnke
2019-10-12 17:08 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2019-10-12 17:26 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-12 15:49 ` brice
2019-10-12 17:36 ` znavko
2019-10-12 17:43 ` P
2019-10-29 14:11 ` Eric Brown
2019-10-29 15:05 ` don catnip
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-10-07 21:14 František Kučera
2019-10-07 21:41 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-10 3:45 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-10 10:48 ` František Kučera
2019-10-10 3:40 ` Jean Louis
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