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From: Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@gmail.com>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: Emacs-Devel devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 11:09:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM6wYYL6EjNE_Q=j2NZTzQYj8GRsoZaEwBciOiUHPBT7dxuvZA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qgexf7j.fsf@posteo.net>

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On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 1:42 AM Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> wrote:

> Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I've created a new package called llm, for the purpose of abstracting the
> > interface to various large language model providers.  There are many LLM
> > packages already, but it would be wasteful for all of them to try to be
> > compatible with a range of LLM providers API (local LLMs such as Llama 2,
> > API providers such as Open AI and Google Cloud's Vertex).  This package
> > attempts to solve this problem by defining generic functions which can
> then
> > be implemented by different LLM providers.  I have started with just two:
> > Open AI and Vertex.  Llama 2 would be a next choice, but I don't yet have
> > it working on my system.  In addition, I'm starting with just two core
> > functionality: chat and embeddings.  Extending to async is probably
> > something that I will do next.
>
> Llama was the model that could be executed locally, and the other two
> are "real" services, right?
>

That's correct.


>
> > You can see the code at https://github.com/ahyatt/llm.
> >
> > I prefer that this is NonGNU, because I suspect people would like to
> > contribute interfaces to different LLM, and not all of them will have FSF
> > papers.
>
> I cannot estimate how important or not LLM will be in the future, but it
> might be worth having something like this in the core, at some point.
> Considering the size of a module at around 150-200 lines it seems, and
> the relative infrequency of new models (at least to my understanding), I
> don't know if the "advantage" of accepting contributions from people who
> haven't signed the CA has that much weight, opposed to the general that
> all users may enjoy from having the technology integrated into Emacs
> itself, in a way that other packages (and perhaps even the core-help
> system) could profit from it.
>

That seems reasonable.  I don't have a strong opinion here, so if others
want to see this in GNU ELPA instead, I'm happy to do that.


>
> > Your thoughts would be appreciated, thank you!
>

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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-07 23:54 [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-08  5:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08 15:08   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-08-08 15:09   ` Andrew Hyatt [this message]
2023-08-09  3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-09  4:37   ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-13  1:43     ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-13  1:43     ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-13  2:11       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-08-15  5:14       ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-15 17:12         ` Jim Porter
2023-08-17  2:02           ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-17  2:48             ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-19  1:51               ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-19  9:08                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-21  1:12                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-21  8:26                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-17 17:08             ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-08-19  1:49               ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-19  8:15                 ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-08-21  1:12                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-21  4:48               ` Jim Porter
2023-08-21  5:12                 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-21  6:03                   ` Jim Porter
2023-08-21  6:36                 ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-08-22  1:06                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-16  2:30         ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-16  5:11           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-08-18  2:10             ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-27  1:07       ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-27 13:11         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-28  1:31           ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-28  2:32             ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-28  2:59               ` Jim Porter
2023-08-28  4:54                 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-31  2:10                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-31  9:06                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-31 16:29                     ` chad
2023-09-01  9:53                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-04  1:27                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06 12:25                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:51                       ` Is ChatGTP SaaSS? (was: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm) Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 16:59                         ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-09  0:37                           ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06 22:52                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-07  7:28                           ` Lucien Cartier-Tilet
2023-09-07  7:57                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-09  0:38                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 10:28                           ` Collaborative training of Libre LLMs (was: Is ChatGTP SaaSS? (was: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm)) Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-09 11:19                             ` Jean Louis
2023-09-10  0:22                             ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-10  2:18                               ` Debanjum Singh Solanky
2023-09-04  1:27                     ` [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm Richard Stallman
2023-08-27 18:36         ` Jim Porter
2023-08-28  0:19           ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-04  1:27           ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-04  5:18             ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-07  1:21               ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-12  4:54                 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-12  9:57                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-12 15:05                   ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-19 16:26                     ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-19 16:34                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-19 18:19                         ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-04  1:27         ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-09  3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-09  4:06   ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-12  2:44     ` Richard Stallman

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