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From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@gmail.com>
Cc: Emacs-Devel devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2023 05:42:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871qgexf7j.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM6wYYJHa+tCUKO_SsnT77g-4MUM0x4FrkoCekr=T9-UF1ADDA@mail.gmail.com> (Andrew Hyatt's message of "Mon, 7 Aug 2023 19:54:50 -0400")

Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I've created a new package called llm, for the purpose of abstracting the
> interface to various large language model providers.  There are many LLM
> packages already, but it would be wasteful for all of them to try to be
> compatible with a range of LLM providers API (local LLMs such as Llama 2,
> API providers such as Open AI and Google Cloud's Vertex).  This package
> attempts to solve this problem by defining generic functions which can then
> be implemented by different LLM providers.  I have started with just two:
> Open AI and Vertex.  Llama 2 would be a next choice, but I don't yet have
> it working on my system.  In addition, I'm starting with just two core
> functionality: chat and embeddings.  Extending to async is probably
> something that I will do next.

Llama was the model that could be executed locally, and the other two
are "real" services, right?

> You can see the code at https://github.com/ahyatt/llm.
>
> I prefer that this is NonGNU, because I suspect people would like to
> contribute interfaces to different LLM, and not all of them will have FSF
> papers.

I cannot estimate how important or not LLM will be in the future, but it
might be worth having something like this in the core, at some point.
Considering the size of a module at around 150-200 lines it seems, and
the relative infrequency of new models (at least to my understanding), I
don't know if the "advantage" of accepting contributions from people who
haven't signed the CA has that much weight, opposed to the general that
all users may enjoy from having the technology integrated into Emacs
itself, in a way that other packages (and perhaps even the core-help
system) could profit from it.

> Your thoughts would be appreciated, thank you!



  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-08  5:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-07 23:54 [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-08  5:42 ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2023-08-08 15:08   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-08-08 15:09   ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-09  3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-09  4:37   ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-13  1:43     ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-13  1:43     ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-13  2:11       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-08-15  5:14       ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-15 17:12         ` Jim Porter
2023-08-17  2:02           ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-17  2:48             ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-19  1:51               ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-19  9:08                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-21  1:12                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-21  8:26                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-17 17:08             ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-08-19  1:49               ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-19  8:15                 ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-08-21  1:12                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-21  4:48               ` Jim Porter
2023-08-21  5:12                 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-21  6:03                   ` Jim Porter
2023-08-21  6:36                 ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-08-22  1:06                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-16  2:30         ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-16  5:11           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-08-18  2:10             ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-27  1:07       ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-27 13:11         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-28  1:31           ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-28  2:32             ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-28  2:59               ` Jim Porter
2023-08-28  4:54                 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-31  2:10                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-31  9:06                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-31 16:29                     ` chad
2023-09-01  9:53                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-04  1:27                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-04  1:27                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06 12:25                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:51                       ` Is ChatGTP SaaSS? (was: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm) Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 16:59                         ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-09  0:37                           ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06 22:52                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-07  7:28                           ` Lucien Cartier-Tilet
2023-09-07  7:57                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-09  0:38                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 10:28                           ` Collaborative training of Libre LLMs (was: Is ChatGTP SaaSS? (was: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm)) Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-09 11:19                             ` Jean Louis
2023-09-10  0:22                             ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-10  2:18                               ` Debanjum Singh Solanky
2023-08-27 18:36         ` [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm Jim Porter
2023-08-28  0:19           ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-04  1:27           ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-04  5:18             ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-07  1:21               ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-12  4:54                 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-12  9:57                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-12 15:05                   ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-19 16:26                     ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-19 16:34                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-19 18:19                         ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-04  1:27         ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-09  3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-09  4:06   ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-12  2:44     ` Richard Stallman

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