From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
Cc: ahyatt@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 22:02:26 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1qWSLC-0005qF-AV@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54c21d90-8bd6-8723-9e33-d69179b37bd0@gmail.com> (message from Jim Porter on Tue, 15 Aug 2023 10:12:20 -0700)
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> Among other things, I'm curious about what the FSF would say
> about the *models* the LLMs use. Are they "just data", or should we
> treat them more like object code? What does an LLM that fully adheres to
> FSF principles actually look like?
I've been thinking about this, and my tentative conclusion is that
that precise question is not crucial, because what is certain is that
they are part of the control over the system's behavior. So they
ought to be released under a free license.
In the examples I've heard of, that is never the case. Either they
are secret -- users can only use them on a server, which is SaaSS, see
https://gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html --
or they are released under nonfree licenses that restrict freedom 0;
see https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/programs-must-not-limit-freedom-to-run.html.
As I recall, we don't have a rule against features to interface
servers whose code is not released, and we certainly don't have a rule
against code in Emacs to interact with nonfree software _provided said
software is well known_ -- that is why it is ok to have code to
interact with Windows and Android.
ISTR we have features in Emacs for talking to servers whose code
is not release. But does anyone recall better than I do?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-17 2:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-07 23:54 [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-08 5:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08 15:08 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-08-08 15:09 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-09 3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-09 4:37 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-13 1:43 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-13 1:43 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-13 2:11 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-08-15 5:14 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-15 17:12 ` Jim Porter
2023-08-17 2:02 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2023-08-17 2:48 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-19 1:51 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-19 9:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-21 1:12 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-21 8:26 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-17 17:08 ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-08-19 1:49 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-19 8:15 ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-08-21 1:12 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-21 4:48 ` Jim Porter
2023-08-21 5:12 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-21 6:03 ` Jim Porter
2023-08-21 6:36 ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-08-22 1:06 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-16 2:30 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-16 5:11 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-08-18 2:10 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-27 1:07 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-27 13:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-28 1:31 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-28 2:32 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-28 2:59 ` Jim Porter
2023-08-28 4:54 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-31 2:10 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-31 9:06 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-31 16:29 ` chad
2023-09-01 9:53 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-04 1:27 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06 12:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:51 ` Is ChatGTP SaaSS? (was: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm) Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 16:59 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-09 0:37 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06 22:52 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-07 7:28 ` Lucien Cartier-Tilet
2023-09-07 7:57 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-09 0:38 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 10:28 ` Collaborative training of Libre LLMs (was: Is ChatGTP SaaSS? (was: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm)) Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-09 11:19 ` Jean Louis
2023-09-10 0:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-10 2:18 ` Debanjum Singh Solanky
2023-09-04 1:27 ` [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm Richard Stallman
2023-08-27 18:36 ` Jim Porter
2023-08-28 0:19 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-04 1:27 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-04 5:18 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-07 1:21 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-12 4:54 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-12 9:57 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-12 15:05 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-19 16:26 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-19 16:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-19 18:19 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-04 1:27 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-09 3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-09 4:06 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-12 2:44 ` Richard Stallman
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