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From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@gmail.com>, rms@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2023 11:36:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ee576b8c-4626-ec10-f09b-15255b6bd277@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM6wYYLZ26E4rpo2Ae2PyxKSBYQKAXQ6U5_QGMoGx5SQy7AMSA@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/26/2023 6:07 PM, Andrew Hyatt wrote:
> To save you the trouble of looking at the code to see what exactly it 
> says, here's the function I'm using to warn:
> 
> (defun llm--warn-on-nonfree (name tos)
>    "Issue a warning if `llm-warn-on-nonfree' is non-nil.
> NAME is the human readable name of the LLM (e.g 'Open AI').
> 
> TOS is the URL of the terms of service for the LLM.
> 
> All non-free LLMs should call this function on each llm function
> invocation."
>    (when llm-warn-on-nonfree
>      (lwarn '(llm nonfree) :warning "%s API is not free software, and 
> your freedom to use it is restricted.
> See %s for the details on the restrictions on use." name tos)))

To make this easier on third parties writing their own implementations 
for other LLMs, maybe you could make this (mostly) automatic? I see that 
you're using 'cl-defgeneric' in the code, so what about something like this?

   (cl-defgeneric llm-free-p (provider)
     "Return non-nil if PROVIDER is a freedom-respecting model."
     nil)

   (cl-defmethod llm-free-p ((provider my-free-llm))
     t)

Then, if all user-facing functions have some implementation that always 
calls this (maybe using the ":before" key for the generic functions?), 
third parties won't forget to set up the warning code; instead, they'll 
need to explicitly mark their LLM provider as free.

I also see that there's a defcustom ('llm-warn-on-nonfree') that lets 
people opt out of this. I think it's a good idea to give users that 
control, but should this follow a similar pattern to 
'inhibit-startup-echo-area-message'? Its docstring says:

> The startup message is in the echo area as it provides information
> about GNU Emacs and the GNU system in general, which we want all
> users to see.  As this is the least intrusive startup message,
> this variable gets specialized treatment to prevent the message
> from being disabled site-wide by systems administrators, while
> still allowing individual users to do so.
> 
> Setting this variable takes effect only if you do it with the
> customization buffer or if your init file contains a line of this
> form:
>  (setq inhibit-startup-echo-area-message "YOUR-USER-NAME")

If we want it to be easy for users to opt out of the message, but hard 
for admins (or other packages) to automate opting out, something like 
the above might make sense.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-27 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-07 23:54 [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-08  5:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08 15:08   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-08-08 15:09   ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-09  3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-09  4:37   ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-13  1:43     ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-13  1:43     ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-13  2:11       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-08-15  5:14       ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-15 17:12         ` Jim Porter
2023-08-17  2:02           ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-17  2:48             ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-19  1:51               ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-19  9:08                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-21  1:12                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-21  8:26                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-17 17:08             ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-08-19  1:49               ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-19  8:15                 ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-08-21  1:12                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-21  4:48               ` Jim Porter
2023-08-21  5:12                 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-21  6:03                   ` Jim Porter
2023-08-21  6:36                 ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-08-22  1:06                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-16  2:30         ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-16  5:11           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-08-18  2:10             ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-27  1:07       ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-27 13:11         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-28  1:31           ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-28  2:32             ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-28  2:59               ` Jim Porter
2023-08-28  4:54                 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-31  2:10                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-31  9:06                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-31 16:29                     ` chad
2023-09-01  9:53                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-04  1:27                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-04  1:27                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06 12:25                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:51                       ` Is ChatGTP SaaSS? (was: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm) Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 16:59                         ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-09  0:37                           ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06 22:52                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-07  7:28                           ` Lucien Cartier-Tilet
2023-09-07  7:57                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-09  0:38                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 10:28                           ` Collaborative training of Libre LLMs (was: Is ChatGTP SaaSS? (was: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm)) Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-09 11:19                             ` Jean Louis
2023-09-10  0:22                             ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-10  2:18                               ` Debanjum Singh Solanky
2023-08-27 18:36         ` Jim Porter [this message]
2023-08-28  0:19           ` [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-04  1:27           ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-04  5:18             ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-07  1:21               ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-12  4:54                 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-12  9:57                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-12 15:05                   ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-19 16:26                     ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-19 16:34                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-19 18:19                         ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-04  1:27         ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-09  3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-09  4:06   ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-12  2:44     ` Richard Stallman

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