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From: "Jonathan McHugh" <indieterminacy@libre.brussels>
To: "Maxime Devos" <maximedevos@telenet.be>,
	"Taylan Kammer" <taylan.kammer@gmail.com>,
	guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Excessively energy-consuming software considered malware?
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 20:34:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7739a5e2830306f431eb2fd5a102c121@libre.brussels> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <902e44183660c5de7e76b90a1fd9ae52e527a448.camel@telenet.be>

Hello Maxime,

February 20, 2022 1:37 PM, "Maxime Devos" <maximedevos@telenet.be> wrote:
> 
> More concretely, the p2pool description is:
> 
> ‘Monero P2Pool is a peer-to-peer Monero mining pool. P2Pool
> combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully
> control your Monero node and what it mines, but *you get frequent
> payouts like on a regular pool.*’
> 

The Monero description is evidently written by a marketer - thats enough justification for caution.

For example, the use of the word "like" in the description appears to remove rather than add clarification

I know which of the following statements is more reassuring:
* You will be paid Saturday
* You will be paid like Saturday

Similarly, the repeating use of terms (P2P, mining, pool) and the name Monero feels like a cynical approach at inbibing rather than educating.

FWIW, Ive noticed that many toolset descriptions are turning into hyperbole on the homepages.
Ive found that visiting forges READMEs tends to provide clearer and more concise descriptions of what a tool is and its functions.

If a concise and normative technical definition of the tool exists then maybe it can be considered (inspite of all the moral hazards and negative externalities).

Until then, let such hazardous pools mine their chains *all solo like* on other OSes.


====================
Jonathan McHugh
indieterminacy@libre.brussels


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-20 20:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-20 10:05 Excessively energy-consuming software considered malware? Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 10:48 ` Tobias Platen
2022-02-20 11:13   ` Martin Becze
2022-02-20 16:52     ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 20:39       ` Martin Becze
2022-02-24  9:23         ` Hartmut Goebel
2022-02-24 11:18           ` Martin Becze
2022-02-25  0:27             ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2022-02-25 12:41               ` Bengt Richter
2022-02-25 13:04                 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-02-25 16:14                   ` Bengt Richter
2022-02-25 16:32                     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-25 16:49                     ` Paul Jewell
2022-02-25 17:05                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-25 17:35                   ` Taylan Kammer
2022-02-25 19:00                     ` Leo Famulari
2022-04-04  8:00           ` Attila Lendvai
2022-04-04  9:43             ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 10:15             ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 12:49               ` Attila Lendvai
2022-04-04 10:16             ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 10:37             ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 11:22             ` indieterminacy
2022-04-04 18:39             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-24  9:13       ` Hartmut Goebel
2022-02-24  9:36         ` Attila Lendvai
2022-02-20 11:08 ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2022-02-20 11:27   ` Compiling blender Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-20 11:34     ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2022-02-20 12:19       ` Faster "guix pull" by incremental compilation and non-circular modules? Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 16:47         ` Philip McGrath
2022-02-20 17:47           ` Semantics of circular imports Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:12             ` Philip McGrath
2022-03-27 14:19               ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:24               ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:33               ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:55               ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-28  4:24               ` Zhu Zihao
2022-03-30  4:50                 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-28 13:17         ` Faster "guix pull" by incremental compilation and non-circular modules? Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-28 18:50           ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-31  4:54             ` Gábor Boskovits
2022-05-31  8:49               ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-31 10:23                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-20 15:54       ` Compiling blender Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-20 16:14         ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2022-02-20 12:20 ` Excessively energy-consuming software considered malware? Taylan Kammer
2022-02-20 12:37   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 12:44     ` Taylan Kammer
2022-02-20 14:59       ` Philip McGrath
2022-02-20 18:53   ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2022-02-20 20:34   ` Jonathan McHugh [this message]
2022-02-20 12:32 ` Paul Jewell
2022-02-20 18:26 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-20 19:36 ` Ryan Sundberg
2022-02-21  9:29 ` Attila Lendvai
2022-02-21 13:06   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-21 18:56     ` raingloom
2022-02-21 23:02     ` Attila Lendvai

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