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From: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
To: Attila Lendvai <attila@lendvai.name>,
	Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com>
Cc: Martin Becze <martin@becze.org>, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Excessively energy-consuming software considered malware?
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2022 12:37:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <549c5a13356c88758351ada5682da6843adde107.camel@telenet.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MA3HQXYe9r21Qmoll499h0lVoQLLci-k_chVp1kJ0GO5UN1ZjxQ4Zs3_M-Dz6qvhV-Y_-Im2gMJ29EzD7BceoRovPW0IHS8TXnmvcPhwX20=@lendvai.name>

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Attila Lendvai schreef op ma 04-04-2022 om 08:00 [+0000]:
> the vast majority of the taxes are not taken from the wealthy,
> but from the masses. the well-connected easily pays for the
> marginal cost of the tax consultants, lawyers, judges, offshore
> entities, and whatnot... and ultimately buy/corrupt the entire
> political system.

If these wealthy evade taxes, wouln't they, after a transition from
public funding to private funding, just keep hoarding the money for
theirselves and not fund anything?  I don't see how eliminating taxes
here would make these corrupt wealthy more likely to pay taxes/fund
things.

If it's all private, no mechanism remains to extract money from these
wealthy.  If it's public, then even if it's partially corrupt, at least
a portion of their wealth would be extracted.

Additionally, there are efforts underway to at least in-part eliminate
off-shore constructions and other tax evasion schemes.  E.g., I forgot
the name, but there was some proposal for a world-wide lower bound on a
certain kind of tax.  And in e.g. Belgium there's a ‘Dienst Bijzondere
Belastingsinspectie’ dedicated to ‘structured combat against fraud’,
and the ‘Federale Overheidsdiensten Financiën’ apparently has recovered
€110,69 * 10^9 in 2020 [0] (or maybe 2019-2020, these reports appear to
be made every two years).

Greetings,
Maxime.

[0] https://www.2020.jaarverslag.financien.belgium.be/index-nl.html

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-04-04 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-20 10:05 Excessively energy-consuming software considered malware? Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 10:48 ` Tobias Platen
2022-02-20 11:13   ` Martin Becze
2022-02-20 16:52     ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 20:39       ` Martin Becze
2022-02-24  9:23         ` Hartmut Goebel
2022-02-24 11:18           ` Martin Becze
2022-02-25  0:27             ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2022-02-25 12:41               ` Bengt Richter
2022-02-25 13:04                 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-02-25 16:14                   ` Bengt Richter
2022-02-25 16:32                     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-25 16:49                     ` Paul Jewell
2022-02-25 17:05                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-25 17:35                   ` Taylan Kammer
2022-02-25 19:00                     ` Leo Famulari
2022-04-04  8:00           ` Attila Lendvai
2022-04-04  9:43             ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 10:15             ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 12:49               ` Attila Lendvai
2022-04-04 10:16             ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 10:37             ` Maxime Devos [this message]
2022-04-04 11:22             ` indieterminacy
2022-04-04 18:39             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-24  9:13       ` Hartmut Goebel
2022-02-24  9:36         ` Attila Lendvai
2022-02-20 11:08 ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2022-02-20 11:27   ` Compiling blender Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-20 11:34     ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2022-02-20 12:19       ` Faster "guix pull" by incremental compilation and non-circular modules? Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 16:47         ` Philip McGrath
2022-02-20 17:47           ` Semantics of circular imports Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:12             ` Philip McGrath
2022-03-27 14:19               ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:24               ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:33               ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:55               ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-28  4:24               ` Zhu Zihao
2022-03-30  4:50                 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-28 13:17         ` Faster "guix pull" by incremental compilation and non-circular modules? Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-28 18:50           ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-31  4:54             ` Gábor Boskovits
2022-05-31  8:49               ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-31 10:23                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-20 15:54       ` Compiling blender Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-20 16:14         ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2022-02-20 12:20 ` Excessively energy-consuming software considered malware? Taylan Kammer
2022-02-20 12:37   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 12:44     ` Taylan Kammer
2022-02-20 14:59       ` Philip McGrath
2022-02-20 18:53   ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2022-02-20 20:34   ` Jonathan McHugh
2022-02-20 12:32 ` Paul Jewell
2022-02-20 18:26 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-20 19:36 ` Ryan Sundberg
2022-02-21  9:29 ` Attila Lendvai
2022-02-21 13:06   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-21 18:56     ` raingloom
2022-02-21 23:02     ` Attila Lendvai

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