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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: Zhu Zihao <all_but_last@163.com>
Cc: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>,
	Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@ist.tugraz.at>,
	guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Semantics of circular imports
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 00:50:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkxoujq2.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ilryr8wl.fsf@163.com> (Zhu Zihao's message of "Mon, 28 Mar 2022 12:24:26 +0800")

Hello,

Zhu Zihao <all_but_last@163.com> writes:

> Philip McGrath <philip@philipmcgrath.com> writes:
>
>> Oh, wow. I definitely had not realized that, *even inside a declarative 
>> module*, a reference to a variable with no statically visible definition 
>> would semantically be a dynamic lookup in a mutable environment at 
>> runtime (rather than a compile-time error), though I do see now that 
>> `info guile declarative` does indeed say that marking a module as 
>> declarative "applies only to the subset of top-level definitions that 
>> are themselves declarative: those that are defined within the 
>> compilation unit, and not assigned (‘set!’) or redefined within the 
>> compilation unit."
>
> It depends on how you reference to it. If a variable is referenced in
> the same module, it'll be inlined if it's small enough.
>
> If you reference it from another module, it'll do something like
> module-ref instead (works like non-declarative binding)
>
>> This seems like a big barrier to cross-module inlining, though IIUC Guile
>> currently doesn't do much of that by default (maybe for this reason).
>
> Guile 3.0.8 comes to rescue. It works by rewrite the `define-module`
> call and attach the tree-il of some bindings on it.
>
> For details, read the blog post authored by Andy Wingo
>
> https://wingolog.org/archives/2021/05/13/cross-module-inlining-in-guile

Thanks for the interesting read (nice writing from Wingo, as usual :-)).

Maxim


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-30  5:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-20 10:05 Excessively energy-consuming software considered malware? Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 10:48 ` Tobias Platen
2022-02-20 11:13   ` Martin Becze
2022-02-20 16:52     ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 20:39       ` Martin Becze
2022-02-24  9:23         ` Hartmut Goebel
2022-02-24 11:18           ` Martin Becze
2022-02-25  0:27             ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2022-02-25 12:41               ` Bengt Richter
2022-02-25 13:04                 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-02-25 16:14                   ` Bengt Richter
2022-02-25 16:32                     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-25 16:49                     ` Paul Jewell
2022-02-25 17:05                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-25 17:35                   ` Taylan Kammer
2022-02-25 19:00                     ` Leo Famulari
2022-04-04  8:00           ` Attila Lendvai
2022-04-04  9:43             ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 10:15             ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 12:49               ` Attila Lendvai
2022-04-04 10:16             ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 10:37             ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 11:22             ` indieterminacy
2022-04-04 18:39             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-24  9:13       ` Hartmut Goebel
2022-02-24  9:36         ` Attila Lendvai
2022-02-20 11:08 ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2022-02-20 11:27   ` Compiling blender Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-20 11:34     ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2022-02-20 12:19       ` Faster "guix pull" by incremental compilation and non-circular modules? Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 16:47         ` Philip McGrath
2022-02-20 17:47           ` Semantics of circular imports Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:12             ` Philip McGrath
2022-03-27 14:19               ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:24               ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:33               ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-27 14:55               ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-28  4:24               ` Zhu Zihao
2022-03-30  4:50                 ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2022-02-28 13:17         ` Faster "guix pull" by incremental compilation and non-circular modules? Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-28 18:50           ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-31  4:54             ` Gábor Boskovits
2022-05-31  8:49               ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-31 10:23                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-20 15:54       ` Compiling blender Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-20 16:14         ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2022-02-20 12:20 ` Excessively energy-consuming software considered malware? Taylan Kammer
2022-02-20 12:37   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-20 12:44     ` Taylan Kammer
2022-02-20 14:59       ` Philip McGrath
2022-02-20 18:53   ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2022-02-20 20:34   ` Jonathan McHugh
2022-02-20 12:32 ` Paul Jewell
2022-02-20 18:26 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-20 19:36 ` Ryan Sundberg
2022-02-21  9:29 ` Attila Lendvai
2022-02-21 13:06   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-21 18:56     ` raingloom
2022-02-21 23:02     ` Attila Lendvai

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