From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu>
Cc: Max Brieiev <max.brieiev@gmail.com>,
emacs-tangents@gnu.org, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 16:59:33 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkyrkjuy.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6835146.iCjXABvquL@galex-713.eu> (Alexandre Garreau's message of "Mon, 28 Feb 2022 15:58:52 +0100")
Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu> writes:
> Le lundo, 28-a de februaro 2022, 13-a horo kaj 31:21 CET Jean Louis a écrit :
>> * Max Brieiev <max.brieiev@gmail.com> [2022-02-28 15:01]:
>> > Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
>> > > I don't think so. Political situation in Ukraine is more complicated
>> > > then what you state. It would be good if we could just accuse Putin
>> > > to
>> > > be the cause. But it is not cause.
>> >
>> > I am a Ukrainian, speaking Russian, living in Kyiv. What you say is a
>> > complete propaganda. You know, 60% of population in Kyiv speaks
>> > Russian. And yet, we hate those "leberators" that are coming into our
>> > land.
>>
>> That I said "I don't think so" is propaganda?
>
> Yes. When something is obvious, and you bring misplaced skepticism without any
> contradiction of the facts in front of you, nor sufficient justification for your position. it is.
It seems to me that people who are not familiar with the situation and
cannot experience the events directly (because of linguistic,
geographical and technical reasons, say how media is automatically
curated on a lot of modern platforms) have a reasonable excuse to remain
sceptical by default. I'd consider it harmful, if this were to be
conflated with bad intentions.
--
Philip Kaludercic
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