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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Jacob Hrbek <kreyren@rixotstudio.cz>
Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>,
	Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 16:08:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YhzJZX85fO6yNWoF@protected.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <625c786e-ddde-4320-8feb-fc6341b01c87@rixotstudio.cz>

* Jacob Hrbek <kreyren@rixotstudio.cz> [2022-02-28 15:53]:
> Your argument that we shouldn't deny access to all free software to russians
> is valid. I am mainly concerned about things that can be used to do major
> war crimes

I think you look at wrong causes.

For products like software you cannot possibly know for what they will
be used.

And you cannot "forbid" it really. 

For example, US could produce some weapons and sell such weapons to
country X with condition NOT to sell weapons to country Y. Though
country X eventually sells it to country Y. It is difficult to forbid
selling weapons unspoken how difficult it would be to find out who
used software and under which circumstances. 

To win in the court you would need proofs, and which court will go
after whatever generals in far countries where you do not have
jurisdiction. You would need to go into that country or hire attorney
in that country to represent your copyrights, that means you would
still need to communicate to people related to bloody enemy who used
your software; then you would spend money and be subjugated to their
laws; and you would need to prove that software was used under terms
not given by you. 

Good luck with it.

However, if you do change licenses to your software, that software
becomes proprietary.

-- 
Jean

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-28 13:08 UTC|newest]

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     [not found] ` <trinity-91ab7da3-86cd-454a-9b41-e6b6d4bf5fbb-1645957364271@3c-app-mailcom-bs09>
     [not found]   ` <YhtX4C9E9JWWw3Ar@tuxteam.de>
2022-02-27 11:27     ` no to war in Ukraine Alexandre Garreau
     [not found] ` <6365757.nJ7RtekbVj@galex-713.eu>
     [not found]   ` <87fso47mzt.fsf@yahoo.com>
     [not found]     ` <5568043.OSE0SheIR2@galex-713.eu>
2022-02-28  9:26       ` Jean Louis
     [not found] ` <7f8b6dc4-a621-2ab4-86ab-79325a1f2a0c@yandex.ru>
     [not found]   ` <95a64961-9a77-bd7a-a4c2-77ae3f9e5bb7@rixotstudio.cz>
2022-02-27 11:45     ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 12:02       ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-27 13:51       ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 12:01         ` Max Brieiev
2022-02-28 12:31           ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 14:58             ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 16:59               ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-28 15:22             ` why conflict [Was: Re: no to war in Ukraine] Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 16:27               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-01 14:28                 ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-01 22:44                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-02  1:08                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-01  6:01               ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01  8:43                 ` Max Brieiev
2022-03-01  9:52                   ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01 15:19                     ` Max Brieiev
     [not found]                 ` <12751820.zrU1mtMFnZ@galex-713.eu>
2022-03-01  9:24                   ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01 16:22                     ` War is bad " dick
2022-03-01 17:05                 ` why conflict " Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-02-28 14:42         ` no to war in Ukraine Alexandre Garreau
2022-03-01  7:27           ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01 14:34             ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 12:12     ` Yuri Khan
2022-02-28 12:17       ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-28 13:08         ` Jean Louis [this message]
2022-02-28 12:43       ` Jean Louis
     [not found]   ` <YhyTqSvVkyfQCDtX@protected.localdomain>
     [not found]     ` <87ilszw2go.fsf@zoho.eu>
2022-02-28 14:26       ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 14:47         ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-01  9:16           ` Jean Louis
     [not found] ` <87tucl18rp.fsf@zoho.eu>
     [not found]   ` <3cf3a903-10fb-76e4-24f8-d2e48d045f5c@rixotstudio.cz>
     [not found]     ` <YhyTBXF/DpCMCn7t@protected.localdomain>
     [not found]       ` <bb25e38f-6ecc-ac8d-0d35-140c07261369@rixotstudio.cz>
2022-02-28 12:15         ` Po Lu
2022-02-28 13:34           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-02-28 15:29             ` Max Brieiev
2022-02-28 18:05               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-01  9:34                 ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
     [not found]         ` <44446637.PyEFFFD7HL@galex-713.eu>
     [not found]           ` <E1nOu3v-0003Ks-Le@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]             ` <87r17myqla.fsf@zoho.eu>
2022-03-01 10:06               ` Po Lu
2022-03-01 14:05                 ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
     [not found]     ` <87ee3p17tx.fsf@zoho.eu>
     [not found]       ` <87zgmauhq3.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
2022-03-01 12:59         ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01 17:39           ` Uwe Brauer
2022-03-02  1:19             ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-06  1:03               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
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     [not found]               ` <87bkykh9gp.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
2022-03-06  9:49                 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-06 14:09                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                     ` <87cziz80qo.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
2022-03-07 15:35                       ` Jean Louis
2022-03-08 18:12                         ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-08 20:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-08 20:21                             ` Tom Davey
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2022-03-01 13:02             ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01 14:08               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
     [not found]         ` <87a6eaymxw.fsf@zoho.eu>
2022-03-01 13:05           ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01 14:10             ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-01 17:09             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
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2022-03-01 15:52     ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-03-01 16:11       ` goncholden

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