From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Subject: Re: Default behaviour of RET.
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 20:47:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv4n8globm.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mwm8g61e.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:17:01 +0900")
> The traditional docstring says that it moves to the left margin and
> handles auto-filling. Eli's suggestion of `(insert "\n")' doesn't do
> that, and it's not what `newline' does when corrupted by
> `electric-shock-mode'. But I think it's useful behavior, and I think
> programs should be able to rely on it (as opposed to users who can
> modify the behavior of `One-Flew-Over-the-Cuckoos-Nest-mode' by
> removing ?\n, or not invoke the mode in the first place).
I can't remember ever seeing a piece of code which wants "the Emacs-23
newline behavior". Usually it either wants to (insert "\n") or it wants
to simulate hitting RET.
This discussion would benefit from actual examples of code that
fall into neither "do whatever RET does" nor "insert \n".
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-17 0:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-13 10:13 electric-indent-mode: abolition of `newline' function is not the Right Thing Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-13 13:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-13 14:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-13 16:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-13 17:28 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-14 12:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-16 18:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-15 18:28 ` martin rudalics
2013-10-16 17:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 17:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-16 18:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 20:55 ` chad
2013-10-16 21:07 ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-18 16:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 23:22 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-16 18:34 ` martin rudalics
2013-10-16 19:26 ` Default behaviour of RET Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 19:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-16 23:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-17 0:47 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2013-10-18 17:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-18 19:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-18 20:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-19 1:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-19 10:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-19 15:07 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-20 14:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-20 22:26 ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-21 2:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-19 22:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-20 15:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-18 16:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-13 20:00 ` electric-indent-mode: abolition of `newline' function is not the Right Thing Matthias Meulien
2013-10-14 13:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-14 13:31 ` Matthias Meulien
2013-10-14 16:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-15 15:54 ` Davis Herring
2013-10-15 20:03 ` Matthias Meulien
2013-10-16 2:44 ` Stefan Monnier
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2013-10-21 3:26 ` Default behaviour of RET Drew Adams
2013-10-21 12:12 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-22 1:25 ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-23 1:20 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-22 13:53 ` Kenichi Handa
2013-10-21 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2013-10-21 17:01 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-21 20:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-21 21:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-10-21 22:03 ` chad
2013-10-21 22:12 ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-21 23:10 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-22 6:49 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2013-10-23 20:23 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-21 22:13 ` Davis Herring
2013-10-21 23:12 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-21 22:59 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-10-22 14:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-23 0:10 ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-23 4:36 ` Josh
2013-10-23 12:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-23 18:15 ` Josh
2013-10-24 13:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-21 23:10 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-22 7:45 ` Jarek Czekalski
2013-10-22 12:03 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-23 20:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-23 23:43 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-24 1:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-10-21 22:59 ` Xue Fuqiao
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2013-10-21 23:09 Drew Adams
2013-10-22 0:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
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