From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at,
monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
stephen@xemacs.org, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Default behaviour of RET.
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 20:18:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131023201809.GA4175@acm.acm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k3h6xuen.fsf@yandex.ru>
Hi, Dmitry.
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:04:32AM +0400, Dmitry Gutov wrote:
> I really have to wonder when anyone would wish to use RET bound to
> newline. Why? Does some popular major mode provide inadequate
> indentation function, so that you have to pick whether to indent the
> next line automatically or not?
`newline' is the Right Thing to do in non-programming modes like Text
Mode, at least a lot of the time.
For example, it is if you have paragraphs indented like this one, where
you use auto-fill-mode to calculate a non-null fill prefix to indent
subsequent lines of the paragraph and RET to start a new paragraph at
column zero.
Even in programming modes, you might want to start a whole-line comment
at column zero, even where (or especially where) the code is deeply
indented.
My personal position is that I'm quite happy with RET doing `newline' and
C-j doing `newline-and-indent', but (despite being a traditionalist) I
wouldn't be that bothered if those bindings were exchanged. I would be
most unhappy if the `newline' functionality were to be obliterated, even
in restricted circumstances like `electric-indent-mode' being enabled and
\n being in `electric-indent-chars'.
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-23 20:18 UTC|newest]
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2013-10-21 17:01 ` Default behaviour of RET Drew Adams
2013-10-21 20:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-21 21:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-10-21 22:03 ` chad
2013-10-21 22:12 ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-21 23:10 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-22 6:49 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2013-10-23 20:23 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-21 22:13 ` Davis Herring
2013-10-21 23:12 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-21 22:59 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-10-22 14:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-23 0:10 ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-23 4:36 ` Josh
2013-10-23 12:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-23 18:15 ` Josh
2013-10-24 13:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-21 23:10 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-22 7:45 ` Jarek Czekalski
2013-10-22 12:03 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-23 20:18 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2013-10-23 23:43 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-24 1:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-10-21 22:59 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-10-21 23:09 Drew Adams
2013-10-22 0:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2013-10-21 3:26 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-21 12:12 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-22 1:25 ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-23 1:20 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-22 13:53 ` Kenichi Handa
2013-10-21 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-10-13 10:13 electric-indent-mode: abolition of `newline' function is not the Right Thing Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-13 13:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-13 14:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-13 16:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-13 17:28 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-15 18:28 ` martin rudalics
2013-10-16 17:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 18:34 ` martin rudalics
2013-10-16 19:26 ` Default behaviour of RET Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 19:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-16 23:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-17 0:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-18 17:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-18 19:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-18 20:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-19 1:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-19 10:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-19 15:07 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-20 14:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-20 22:26 ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-21 2:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-19 22:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-20 15:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-18 16:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
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