From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at,
monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, acm@muc.de,
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
stephen@xemacs.org
Subject: Re: Default behaviour of RET.
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 00:04:32 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k3h6xuen.fsf@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1730ebf3-db44-498c-b2a9-4d288d83a946@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:01:25 -0700 (PDT)")
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
>> I want a key that is easily reached and that
>> performs newline-and-indent. Every modern IDE does that.
>
> Emacs does that too, with `C-j'. Easily reached by most, I think.
Every IDE does that when the user presses RET.
> But any user is free to bind some other key for this. If one finds
> `<f9>' or `<kp-enter>' (or even `RET') better, then it's easy enough
> to substitute it.
Yes, we've heard this argument loads of times already. Then'll also be
able to rebind RET back to `newline', or disable `electric-indent-mode',
or whatever. The question is what would be the sane default.
> Sorry, I'm with Richard on this one. You seem to be viewing a local
> mole hill (if even that) from a foreign vantage point and seeing a
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> mountain.
You seem to be under impression that Eli is somehow new to using Emacs.
> `C-j' is a good choice for Emacs, here. Let's keep `RET'
> for what it does and `C-j' for what it does.
I really have to wonder when anyone would wish to use RET bound to
newline. Why? Does some popular major mode provide inadequate
indentation function, so that you have to pick whether to indent the
next line automatically or not?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-21 20:04 UTC|newest]
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2013-10-21 17:01 ` Default behaviour of RET Drew Adams
2013-10-21 20:04 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-21 21:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-10-21 22:03 ` chad
2013-10-21 22:12 ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-21 23:10 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-22 6:49 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2013-10-23 20:23 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-21 22:13 ` Davis Herring
2013-10-21 23:12 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-21 22:59 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-10-22 14:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-23 0:10 ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-23 4:36 ` Josh
2013-10-23 12:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-23 18:15 ` Josh
2013-10-24 13:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-21 23:10 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-22 7:45 ` Jarek Czekalski
2013-10-22 12:03 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-23 20:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-23 23:43 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-24 1:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-10-21 22:59 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-10-21 23:09 Drew Adams
2013-10-22 0:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2013-10-21 3:26 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-21 12:12 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-22 1:25 ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-23 1:20 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-22 13:53 ` Kenichi Handa
2013-10-21 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-10-13 10:13 electric-indent-mode: abolition of `newline' function is not the Right Thing Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-13 13:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-13 14:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-13 16:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-13 17:28 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-15 18:28 ` martin rudalics
2013-10-16 17:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 18:34 ` martin rudalics
2013-10-16 19:26 ` Default behaviour of RET Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 19:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-16 23:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-17 0:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-18 17:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-18 19:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-18 20:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-19 1:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-19 10:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-19 15:07 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-20 14:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-20 22:26 ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-21 2:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-19 22:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-20 15:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-18 16:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
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