From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
Konstantin Kharlamov <hi-angel@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: [RFE] Migration to gitlab
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 11:14:13 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zhpsgnxm.fsf@red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1h5hON-0005ge-IP@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 17 Mar 2019 21:48:43 -0400")
On 17 Mar 2019, Richard Stallman wrote:
>We will not move Emacs to Gitlab. That site has substantial flaws on
>some ethical points, and we do not endorse it.
>
>See https://gnu.org/software/repo-criteria.html for more details.
>
>Changing savannah's interface is something we could do,
>if people offer to do the work.
Saying "we will not move X to GitLab" is ambiguous -- not your fault -- because the maintainers of GitLab use that word to refer to several distinct things:
1) A rather nice Free Software package that offers functionality similar to Savannah and other forges.
2) A hosted service for (1).
3) A hosted service for a version of (1) that has been extended with proprietary features.
I believe that (1) and (2) both meet the repository criteria you mention above. (3) obviously does not.
"GitLab" is also the name of a company that runs both (2) and (3), and that company is the primary maintainer of (1). While their marketing material focuses on (3), making it hard to tell that they also offer (2), they do offer (2). Of course, one could just self-host (1), if one has the ability to do so.
Best regards,
-Karl
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2019-03-17 2:17 bug#34889: [RFE] Migration to gitlab Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 3:01 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 3:34 ` bug#34889: " Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 8:20 ` Tim Cross
2019-03-17 9:51 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-17 11:16 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 18:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-19 0:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-19 1:43 ` Glenn Morris
2019-03-19 1:50 ` Glenn Morris
2019-03-20 2:28 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-19 7:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-19 7:27 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-19 8:47 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-19 12:31 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-19 12:46 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-19 11:03 ` Ergus
2019-03-19 7:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-19 14:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
[not found] ` <message from DmitryGutovon Tue>
2019-03-19 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-19 21:59 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-20 6:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-20 6:56 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-20 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-21 8:28 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-21 9:02 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-21 9:48 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-21 9:59 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-21 17:54 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-21 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 21:19 ` Toon Claes
2019-04-24 7:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 7:52 ` Toon Claes
2019-03-22 10:37 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-03-22 10:56 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-03-22 18:52 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-03-23 0:37 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-03-22 11:24 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 12:38 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-22 13:27 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 13:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 13:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 14:05 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 14:20 ` Teemu Likonen
2019-03-22 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 15:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 15:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-23 21:58 ` Juri Linkov
2019-03-22 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-23 2:33 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-23 7:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-23 14:04 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-23 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-24 6:29 ` Van L
2019-03-24 11:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-24 1:44 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-22 10:01 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 10:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 10:34 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 14:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-22 14:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 17:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-22 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 12:43 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-03-22 13:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 13:30 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 16:46 ` Glenn Morris
2019-03-22 18:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 13:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 14:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-22 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 16:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-22 16:23 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-22 16:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 16:48 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-22 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 16:52 ` Glenn Morris
2019-03-22 16:57 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-22 17:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-24 13:53 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-24 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-25 16:29 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-25 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-25 17:52 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-25 17:56 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-25 17:54 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-22 18:50 ` Glenn Morris
2019-03-22 19:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-22 17:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-20 23:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-21 5:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21 7:58 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-25 1:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 8:17 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-25 1:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 9:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 10:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 10:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 15:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 19:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 23:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-26 7:52 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-26 12:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-26 13:03 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-26 8:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-27 1:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-27 9:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-15 2:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-15 2:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-15 5:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-15 13:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-15 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 3:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-16 13:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 13:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-16 14:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 14:34 ` debbugs extensions (was: [RFE] Migration to gitlab) Michael Albinus
2019-05-16 23:40 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-17 7:30 ` debbugs extensions Michael Albinus
2019-05-17 8:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 9:25 ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-17 10:45 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-15 13:37 ` [RFE] Migration to gitlab Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-16 3:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-04-26 8:42 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-26 19:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-20 1:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-18 1:48 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-18 2:41 ` Tim Cross
2019-03-18 13:19 ` Van L
2019-03-19 2:15 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-19 14:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-20 2:33 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-18 16:14 ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2019-03-17 16:48 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-03-17 18:05 ` Amin Bandali
2019-03-17 3:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-17 12:37 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-17 13:14 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-17 13:23 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 13:49 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-17 14:06 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 14:26 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-17 15:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-17 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-17 17:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-17 17:29 ` Alex
2019-04-18 8:27 ` Toon Claes
2019-04-20 21:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-23 21:08 ` Toon Claes
2019-04-24 15:26 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-25 8:24 ` Toon Claes
2019-04-25 13:45 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-25 0:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 8:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 9:16 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-10 9:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 10:37 ` 조성빈
2019-05-10 12:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 13:09 ` 조성빈
2019-05-10 22:23 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-05-11 2:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-05-11 3:47 ` 조성빈
2019-05-11 7:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 7:38 ` 조성빈
2019-05-11 10:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 13:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-11 13:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 13:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-11 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 19:25 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-11 19:25 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-11 19:24 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-11 19:22 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-12 15:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-05-12 20:51 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-06-18 15:36 ` Simon Leinen
2019-06-25 22:38 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-06-26 18:01 ` Simon Leinen
2019-06-26 18:21 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-12 0:58 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-05-11 6:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-12 0:23 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-05-12 5:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-12 7:04 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-05-12 13:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 4:32 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-05-13 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 18:24 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-05-13 16:41 ` [OFFTOPIC] size of issue tracker (was: [RFE] Migration to gitlab) Stefan Monnier
2019-05-13 17:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 18:55 ` [OFFTOPIC] size of issue tracker Stefan Monnier
2019-05-13 18:59 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-13 19:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-13 18:59 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-05-13 20:02 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-05-13 20:11 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-05-13 20:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-14 8:43 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-14 19:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-15 7:45 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-15 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-15 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 17:54 ` Clemens Radermacher
2019-05-16 19:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-16 23:19 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-05-16 23:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-19 19:34 ` Juri Linkov
2019-05-19 20:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-19 20:46 ` Juri Linkov
2019-05-20 11:57 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-20 12:29 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-10 11:16 ` [RFE] Migration to gitlab Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-10 12:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 13:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-10 14:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 14:32 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-05-10 14:56 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-10 15:16 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-05-10 15:00 ` 조성빈
2019-05-10 15:26 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-05-11 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 15:37 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-05-11 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 15:57 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-05-13 8:47 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-10 16:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-10 20:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 21:12 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-11 6:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 6:16 ` 조성빈
2019-05-11 12:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 12:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-11 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 13:29 ` Amin Bandali
2019-05-11 13:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 14:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 14:42 ` Amin Bandali
2019-05-11 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 16:09 ` Amin Bandali
2019-05-11 14:11 ` Amin Bandali
2019-05-11 15:41 ` 조성빈
2019-05-13 9:23 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-10 21:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-10 21:56 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-05-11 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 19:19 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-13 1:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-13 1:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-13 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 18:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-13 9:03 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-13 18:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-14 10:23 ` EMBA enable Reply by Email (was: [RFE] Migration to gitlab) Toon Claes
2019-05-10 14:02 ` [RFE] Migration to gitlab Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-10 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 14:54 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-10 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 16:23 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-05-12 19:09 ` Juri Linkov
2019-05-12 22:24 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-14 13:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-10 14:02 ` Debbugs problems (was: [RFE] Migration to gitlab) Stefan Monnier
2019-05-10 14:24 ` Debbugs problems Michael Albinus
2019-05-10 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 1:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-13 14:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 17:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-13 18:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 18:57 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-14 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 20:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-14 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 10:41 ` [RFE] Migration to gitlab Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-10 15:23 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-10 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-17 17:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
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