From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Konstantin Kharlamov <hi-angel@yandex.ru>
Cc: theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFE] Migration to gitlab
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 20:05:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83imwhwf4x.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1552821396.21432.0@yandex.ru> (message from Konstantin Kharlamov on Sun, 17 Mar 2019 14:16:36 +0300)
> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 14:16:36 +0300
> From: Konstantin Kharlamov <hi-angel@yandex.ru>
> Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
>
> savannah.gnu.org looks like a news site
Are you sure you are looking at the right page? You should be looking
here:
https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/emacs
> > One thing I think you have possibly overlooked or glossed over is the
> > copyright requirements for contributions to GNU Emacs. I suspect this
> > is one of the reasons Emacs is not developed in a similar fashion to
> > other projects which are based on the use of pull requests etc.
>
> I've just read a bit about that. I might be missing some nuances of the
> process, but right now I don't see how using merge requests vs emails
> could interfere.
It doesn't interfere, but it slows down the process for new
contributors, so doing this stuff quickly is no longer an attainable
goal.
> If an arbitrary newcomer out there would consider "Hmm, I have used
> Emacs and Visual Studio Code, where do I want to contribute"; they
> easily gonna stop half-way through figuring out how to send a patch,
> and not gonna contribute to Emacs.
Sending patches via email is only one requirement. There are other
requirements peculiar to Emacs, which will not go away if we switch to
another patch submitting system. Some of these requirements, each and
every one of them flagged at some point as an obstacle for newcomers:
. code submissions should include documentation
. commit log messages should be formatted in a certain way
. bug numbers should be referenced in log messages
. US English conventions in writing comments and documentation
(spelling, two spaces between sentences, etc.)
. we require copyright assignments for accepting changesets larger
than about 15 original source lines
. we have peculiar rules regarding the branch were certain changes
should be pushed (affects the branch against which contributors
should prepare patches)
. very elaborate coding and documenting conventions (their
description takes around 900 lines in the ELisp manual)
So as you see, being a contributor to Emacs is not easy and takes some
getting used to. Plenty of reasons for arbitrary newcomers not to be
bothered, whether or not we use Gitlab. Contributing to Emacs needs a
lot of motivation regardless. We shouldn't forget that when we
discuss individual issues.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-03-17 18:05 UTC|newest]
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2019-03-17 2:17 bug#34889: [RFE] Migration to gitlab Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 3:01 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 3:34 ` bug#34889: " Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 8:20 ` Tim Cross
2019-03-17 9:51 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-17 11:16 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 18:05 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-03-19 0:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-19 1:43 ` Glenn Morris
2019-03-19 1:50 ` Glenn Morris
2019-03-20 2:28 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-19 7:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-19 7:27 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-19 8:47 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-19 12:31 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-19 12:46 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-19 11:03 ` Ergus
2019-03-19 7:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-19 14:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
[not found] ` <message from DmitryGutovon Tue>
2019-03-19 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-19 21:59 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-20 6:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-20 6:56 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-20 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-21 8:28 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-21 9:02 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-21 9:48 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-21 9:59 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-21 17:54 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-21 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 21:19 ` Toon Claes
2019-04-24 7:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 7:52 ` Toon Claes
2019-03-22 10:37 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-03-22 10:56 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-03-22 18:52 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-03-23 0:37 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-03-22 11:24 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 12:38 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-22 13:27 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 13:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 13:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 14:05 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 14:20 ` Teemu Likonen
2019-03-22 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 15:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 15:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-23 21:58 ` Juri Linkov
2019-03-22 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-23 2:33 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-23 7:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-23 14:04 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-23 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-24 6:29 ` Van L
2019-03-24 11:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-24 1:44 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-22 10:01 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 10:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 10:34 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 14:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-22 14:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 17:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-22 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 12:43 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-03-22 13:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 13:30 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 16:46 ` Glenn Morris
2019-03-22 18:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 13:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 14:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-22 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 16:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-22 16:23 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-22 16:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 16:48 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-22 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 16:52 ` Glenn Morris
2019-03-22 16:57 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-22 17:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-24 13:53 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-24 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-25 16:29 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-25 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-25 17:52 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-25 17:56 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-25 17:54 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-22 18:50 ` Glenn Morris
2019-03-22 19:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-22 17:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-20 23:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-21 5:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21 7:58 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-25 1:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 8:17 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-25 1:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 9:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 10:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 10:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 15:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 19:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 23:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-26 7:52 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-26 12:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-26 13:03 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-26 8:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-27 1:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-27 9:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-15 2:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-15 2:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-15 5:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-15 13:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-15 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 3:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-16 13:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 13:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-16 14:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 14:34 ` debbugs extensions (was: [RFE] Migration to gitlab) Michael Albinus
2019-05-16 23:40 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-17 7:30 ` debbugs extensions Michael Albinus
2019-05-17 8:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 9:25 ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-17 10:45 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-15 13:37 ` [RFE] Migration to gitlab Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-16 3:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-04-26 8:42 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-26 19:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-20 1:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-18 1:48 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-18 2:41 ` Tim Cross
2019-03-18 13:19 ` Van L
2019-03-19 2:15 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-19 14:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-20 2:33 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-18 16:14 ` Karl Fogel
2019-03-17 16:48 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-03-17 18:05 ` Amin Bandali
2019-03-17 3:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-17 12:37 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-17 13:14 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-17 13:23 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 13:49 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-17 14:06 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 14:26 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-17 15:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-17 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-17 17:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-17 17:29 ` Alex
2019-04-18 8:27 ` Toon Claes
2019-04-20 21:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-23 21:08 ` Toon Claes
2019-04-24 15:26 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-25 8:24 ` Toon Claes
2019-04-25 13:45 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-25 0:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 8:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 9:16 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-10 9:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 10:37 ` 조성빈
2019-05-10 12:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 13:09 ` 조성빈
2019-05-10 22:23 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-05-11 2:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-05-11 3:47 ` 조성빈
2019-05-11 7:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 7:38 ` 조성빈
2019-05-11 10:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 13:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-11 13:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 13:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-11 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 19:25 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-11 19:25 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-11 19:24 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-11 19:22 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-12 15:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-05-12 20:51 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-06-18 15:36 ` Simon Leinen
2019-06-25 22:38 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-06-26 18:01 ` Simon Leinen
2019-06-26 18:21 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-12 0:58 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-05-11 6:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-12 0:23 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-05-12 5:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-12 7:04 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-05-12 13:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 4:32 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-05-13 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 18:24 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-05-13 16:41 ` [OFFTOPIC] size of issue tracker (was: [RFE] Migration to gitlab) Stefan Monnier
2019-05-13 17:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 18:55 ` [OFFTOPIC] size of issue tracker Stefan Monnier
2019-05-13 18:59 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-13 19:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-13 18:59 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-05-13 20:02 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-05-13 20:11 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-05-13 20:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-14 8:43 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-14 19:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-15 7:45 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-15 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-15 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 17:54 ` Clemens Radermacher
2019-05-16 19:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-16 23:19 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-05-16 23:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-19 19:34 ` Juri Linkov
2019-05-19 20:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-19 20:46 ` Juri Linkov
2019-05-20 11:57 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-20 12:29 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-10 11:16 ` [RFE] Migration to gitlab Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-10 12:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 13:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-10 14:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 14:32 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-05-10 14:56 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-10 15:16 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-05-10 15:00 ` 조성빈
2019-05-10 15:26 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-05-11 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 15:37 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-05-11 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 15:57 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-05-13 8:47 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-10 16:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-10 20:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 21:12 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-11 6:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 6:16 ` 조성빈
2019-05-11 12:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 12:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-11 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 13:29 ` Amin Bandali
2019-05-11 13:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 14:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 14:42 ` Amin Bandali
2019-05-11 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 16:09 ` Amin Bandali
2019-05-11 14:11 ` Amin Bandali
2019-05-11 15:41 ` 조성빈
2019-05-13 9:23 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-10 21:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-10 21:56 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-05-11 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 19:19 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-13 1:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-13 1:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-13 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 18:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-13 9:03 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-13 18:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-14 10:23 ` EMBA enable Reply by Email (was: [RFE] Migration to gitlab) Toon Claes
2019-05-10 14:02 ` [RFE] Migration to gitlab Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-10 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 14:54 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-10 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 16:23 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-05-12 19:09 ` Juri Linkov
2019-05-12 22:24 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-14 13:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-10 14:02 ` Debbugs problems (was: [RFE] Migration to gitlab) Stefan Monnier
2019-05-10 14:24 ` Debbugs problems Michael Albinus
2019-05-10 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 1:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-13 14:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 17:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-13 18:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 18:57 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-14 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 20:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-14 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 10:41 ` [RFE] Migration to gitlab Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-10 15:23 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-10 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
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