From: Konstantin Kharlamov <hi-angel@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru
Subject: Re: [RFE] Migration to gitlab
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 09:56:34 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1553064994.13109.0@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83a7hqt6o8.fsf@gnu.org>
On Ср, Mar 20, 2019 at 09:13:11, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> My point is: moving these destructive checks to the moment of the
>> actual contribution to upstream (i.e. the gitlab CI that runs for
>> every
>> merge-request) would make more pleasant experience for contributors,
>> whilst not taking anything from maintainers (sure, "fix unit-test
>> failures that your commit caused" is something that a contributor
>> could
>> probably figure out themselves).
>
> And my point is that we are once again arguing about very much minor
> issues, without doing anything about, nor even touching, the more
> important ones. E.g., I asked up-thread whether you knew how many
> people review patches for Emacs; did you follow up on that? This is
> IMO much more important for Emacs development and eventually for its
> future than whether our CI will be from Gitlab or from somewhere else,
> definitely more important than the commit hooks issue.
I didn't reply this point because I don't know what to add. I get that
there's not much people doing review, but it's a pain present in most
projects. Even some Linux kernel subsystems often lacks proper review,
I regularly see articles about that on LWN popping up — and the
kernel has thousands of contributors, most of them are paid ones.
Undoubtedly this is important for Emacs future, but where do you think
new people can appear from? Consider that when I'm talking about
newbies, I'm implicitly talking about possible future maintainers.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-03-20 6:56 UTC|newest]
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2019-03-17 2:17 bug#34889: [RFE] Migration to gitlab Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 3:01 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 3:34 ` bug#34889: " Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 8:20 ` Tim Cross
2019-03-17 9:51 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-17 11:16 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 18:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-19 0:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-19 1:43 ` Glenn Morris
2019-03-19 1:50 ` Glenn Morris
2019-03-20 2:28 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-19 7:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-19 7:27 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-19 8:47 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-19 12:31 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-19 12:46 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-19 11:03 ` Ergus
2019-03-19 7:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-19 14:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2019-03-19 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-19 21:59 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-20 6:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-03-20 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-21 8:28 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-21 9:02 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-21 9:48 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-21 9:59 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-21 17:54 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-21 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 21:19 ` Toon Claes
2019-04-24 7:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 7:52 ` Toon Claes
2019-03-22 10:37 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-03-22 10:56 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-03-22 18:52 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-03-23 0:37 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-03-22 11:24 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 12:38 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-22 13:27 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 13:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 13:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 14:05 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 14:20 ` Teemu Likonen
2019-03-22 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 15:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 15:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-23 21:58 ` Juri Linkov
2019-03-22 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-23 2:33 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-23 7:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-23 14:04 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-23 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-24 6:29 ` Van L
2019-03-24 11:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-24 1:44 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-22 10:01 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 10:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 10:34 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 14:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-22 14:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 17:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-22 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 12:43 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-03-22 13:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 13:30 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 16:46 ` Glenn Morris
2019-03-22 18:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 13:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 14:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-22 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 16:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-22 16:23 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-22 16:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 16:48 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-22 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 16:52 ` Glenn Morris
2019-03-22 16:57 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-22 17:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-24 13:53 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-24 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-25 16:29 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-25 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-25 17:52 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-25 17:56 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-25 17:54 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-22 18:50 ` Glenn Morris
2019-03-22 19:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-22 17:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-20 23:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-21 5:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21 7:58 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-25 1:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 8:17 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-25 1:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 9:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 10:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 10:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 15:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 19:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 23:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-26 7:52 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-26 12:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-26 13:03 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-26 8:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-27 1:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-27 9:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-15 2:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-15 2:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-15 5:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-15 13:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-15 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 3:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-16 13:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 13:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-16 14:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 14:34 ` debbugs extensions (was: [RFE] Migration to gitlab) Michael Albinus
2019-05-16 23:40 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-17 7:30 ` debbugs extensions Michael Albinus
2019-05-17 8:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 9:25 ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-17 10:45 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-15 13:37 ` [RFE] Migration to gitlab Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-16 3:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-04-26 8:42 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-26 19:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-20 1:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-18 1:48 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-18 2:41 ` Tim Cross
2019-03-18 13:19 ` Van L
2019-03-19 2:15 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-19 14:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-20 2:33 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-18 16:14 ` Karl Fogel
2019-03-17 16:48 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-03-17 18:05 ` Amin Bandali
2019-03-17 3:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-17 12:37 ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-03-17 13:14 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-17 13:23 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 13:49 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-17 14:06 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-17 14:26 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-03-17 15:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-17 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-17 17:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-17 17:29 ` Alex
2019-04-18 8:27 ` Toon Claes
2019-04-20 21:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-23 21:08 ` Toon Claes
2019-04-24 15:26 ` Alex Gramiak
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2019-04-25 13:45 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-25 0:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 8:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 9:16 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-10 9:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 10:37 ` 조성빈
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2019-05-10 22:23 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-05-11 2:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
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2019-05-11 7:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 7:38 ` 조성빈
2019-05-11 10:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 13:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-11 13:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 13:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-11 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 19:25 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-11 19:25 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-11 19:24 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-11 19:22 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-12 15:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
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2019-06-25 22:38 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-06-26 18:01 ` Simon Leinen
2019-06-26 18:21 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-12 0:58 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-05-11 6:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-12 0:23 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-05-12 5:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-12 7:04 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-05-12 13:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 4:32 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-05-13 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 18:24 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-05-13 16:41 ` [OFFTOPIC] size of issue tracker (was: [RFE] Migration to gitlab) Stefan Monnier
2019-05-13 17:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 18:55 ` [OFFTOPIC] size of issue tracker Stefan Monnier
2019-05-13 18:59 ` Óscar Fuentes
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2019-05-13 18:59 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-05-13 20:02 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-05-13 20:11 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-05-13 20:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-14 8:43 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-14 19:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-15 7:45 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-15 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-15 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 17:54 ` Clemens Radermacher
2019-05-16 19:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-16 23:19 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-05-16 23:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-19 19:34 ` Juri Linkov
2019-05-19 20:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-19 20:46 ` Juri Linkov
2019-05-20 11:57 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-20 12:29 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-10 11:16 ` [RFE] Migration to gitlab Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-10 12:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 13:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-10 14:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 14:32 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-05-10 14:56 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-10 15:16 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-05-10 15:00 ` 조성빈
2019-05-10 15:26 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-05-11 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 15:37 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-05-11 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 15:57 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-05-13 8:47 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-10 16:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-10 20:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 21:12 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-11 6:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 6:16 ` 조성빈
2019-05-11 12:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 12:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-11 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 13:29 ` Amin Bandali
2019-05-11 13:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 14:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 14:42 ` Amin Bandali
2019-05-11 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 16:09 ` Amin Bandali
2019-05-11 14:11 ` Amin Bandali
2019-05-11 15:41 ` 조성빈
2019-05-13 9:23 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-10 21:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-10 21:56 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-05-11 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 19:19 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-13 1:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-13 1:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-13 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 18:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-13 9:03 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-13 18:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-14 10:23 ` EMBA enable Reply by Email (was: [RFE] Migration to gitlab) Toon Claes
2019-05-10 14:02 ` [RFE] Migration to gitlab Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-10 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 14:54 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-10 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 16:23 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-05-12 19:09 ` Juri Linkov
2019-05-12 22:24 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-14 13:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-10 14:02 ` Debbugs problems (was: [RFE] Migration to gitlab) Stefan Monnier
2019-05-10 14:24 ` Debbugs problems Michael Albinus
2019-05-10 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 1:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-13 14:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 17:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-13 18:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 18:57 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-14 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 20:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-14 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-10 10:41 ` [RFE] Migration to gitlab Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-10 15:23 ` Toon Claes
2019-05-10 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
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