From: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: 20322@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#20322: 25.0.50; indent-tabs-mode should default to nil
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:18:12 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2oad7lp8r.fsf@newartisans.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5683CAD0.6020609@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 30 Dec 2015 14:15:12 +0200")
>>>>> Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> writes:
> I've got only one argument: the longer we want, the more we continue
> confusing new user coming to the editor
The longer we wait? This has the default (according to Git) since at least
1991, or 25 years now. Probably much longer, since that commit is just there
to begin the Git history.
What about the needs of existing users who'll become confused by our changing
such an established default on them? When did pleasing the expectations of new
users become a driving force for these types of changes? We can also expect
new users to learn how Emacs does things, too.
What I would *like* is for tabs to insert spaces. But a change like this
affects far more people than just the target audience. We need an excellent
reason to do this.
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Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-14 2:37 bug#20322: 25.0.50; indent-tabs-mode should default to nil Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-14 3:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-14 14:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-14 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-14 15:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-14 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-14 20:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-14 21:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-14 22:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-15 1:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-15 2:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-15 4:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-20 14:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-20 19:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-20 22:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-21 1:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-21 19:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-21 19:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-22 15:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-22 15:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-22 15:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-22 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-22 15:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-21 20:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-21 20:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-22 13:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-22 14:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-22 16:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-02 18:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-02 20:37 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-02 21:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-02 21:18 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-02 21:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 21:29 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-02 23:31 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-03 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 23:31 ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-15 14:31 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-04-15 16:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-17 2:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-17 4:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-17 13:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-17 7:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-17 8:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-17 14:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-17 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-17 15:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-17 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-17 18:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-17 18:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-20 15:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-17 7:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-04-17 8:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-17 10:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-12-26 14:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-12-27 2:52 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-27 3:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-12-27 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-27 16:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-12-27 16:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-27 16:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-12-30 4:47 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-30 11:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-12-30 12:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-12-30 19:18 ` John Wiegley [this message]
2015-12-31 0:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-12-31 1:17 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-31 1:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-12-31 2:48 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-31 6:30 ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-14 17:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-14 18:08 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-04-14 20:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-14 19:09 ` Achim Gratz
2015-04-14 21:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-15 2:33 ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-15 11:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-15 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-15 23:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
[not found] ` <<E1YiD8o-000318-H5@fencepost.gnu.org>
2015-04-15 15:29 ` Drew Adams
2015-04-14 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-14 14:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-14 15:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-14 15:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-14 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-17 17:22 ` Philipp Stephani
2015-04-18 2:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
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