bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Ricardo Wurmus]

The default value for “magit-git-executable” (when magit is installed
via Guix) appears to be a store path, such as
“/gnu/store/l7g5r1c2i0bf3cd71g53ajy8khdcyidz-git-2.16.1/bin/git”.  This
means that when magit is used over TRAMP it will try to find the exact
same git executable on the remote.

Instead, magit should only look for “git” on the remote, not for the
exact store location of a particular git executable.

I could only use magit over TRAMP after setting “magit-git-executable”
to “git”.

--
Ricardo

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bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Alex Kost]

Ricardo Wurmus (2018-02-12 13:53 +0100) wrote:

> The default value for “magit-git-executable” (when magit is installed
> via Guix) appears to be a store path, such as
> “/gnu/store/l7g5r1c2i0bf3cd71g53ajy8khdcyidz-git-2.16.1/bin/git”.  This
> means that when magit is used over TRAMP it will try to find the exact
> same git executable on the remote.
>
> Instead, magit should only look for “git” on the remote, not for the
> exact store location of a particular git executable.
>
> I could only use magit over TRAMP after setting “magit-git-executable”
> to “git”.

If people will agree that changing 'magit-git-executable' is not needed,
then I think 'git' can be removed from the inputs as it is used just for
that variable.

P.S.  I also use just "git" for 'magit-git-executable'.

-- 
Alex

bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Ricardo Wurmus]

Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com> writes:

> Ricardo Wurmus (2018-02-12 13:53 +0100) wrote:
>
>> The default value for “magit-git-executable” (when magit is installed
>> via Guix) appears to be a store path, such as
>> “/gnu/store/l7g5r1c2i0bf3cd71g53ajy8khdcyidz-git-2.16.1/bin/git”.  This
>> means that when magit is used over TRAMP it will try to find the exact
>> same git executable on the remote.
>>
>> Instead, magit should only look for “git” on the remote, not for the
>> exact store location of a particular git executable.
>>
>> I could only use magit over TRAMP after setting “magit-git-executable”
>> to “git”.
>
> If people will agree that changing 'magit-git-executable' is not needed,
> then I think 'git' can be removed from the inputs as it is used just for
> that variable.
>
> P.S.  I also use just "git" for 'magit-git-executable'.

It took me way too long to figure out that this was the cause.  I played
with TRAMP settings before that and only noticed that something was off
when I looked at the verbose TRAMP debug logs.

I think it makes sense *not* to hardcode the path to the git executable
here.

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Ricardo

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bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Mark H Weaver]

Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> writes:
> I think it makes sense *not* to hardcode the path to the git executable
> here.

Agreed.  Done, in commit 5fe9ba59ba1cea12a70d011aacbace52e3bfda18 on
master and commit 317e8e9404058af35d9843e076934560f95d895a on
core-updates.  I'm closing this bug now.

    Thanks,
      Mark

bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Alex Kost]

Mark H Weaver (2018-02-14 03:51 -0500) wrote:

> Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> writes:
>> I think it makes sense *not* to hardcode the path to the git executable
>> here.
>
> Agreed.  Done, in commit 5fe9ba59ba1cea12a70d011aacbace52e3bfda18 on
> master and commit 317e8e9404058af35d9843e076934560f95d895a on
> core-updates.  I'm closing this bug now.

You didn't remove "git" from the inputs.  I think it is not needed now.

-- 
Alex

bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Mark H Weaver]

Hi Alex,

Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com> writes:

> Mark H Weaver (2018-02-14 03:51 -0500) wrote:
>
>> Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> writes:
>>> I think it makes sense *not* to hardcode the path to the git executable
>>> here.
>>
>> Agreed.  Done, in commit 5fe9ba59ba1cea12a70d011aacbace52e3bfda18 on
>> master and commit 317e8e9404058af35d9843e076934560f95d895a on
>> core-updates.  I'm closing this bug now.
>
> You didn't remove "git" from the inputs.  I think it is not needed now.

I removed it on my first attempt, but the build failed.  See below.

      Mark

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starting phase `build'
Cannot open load file: No such file or directory, /tmp/guix-build-magit-2.11.0.drv-0/magit-2.11.0/magit-version.el
make[1]: Entering directory '/tmp/guix-build-magit-2.11.0.drv-0/magit-2.11.0/Documentation'
make[1]: Entering directory '/tmp/guix-build-magit-2.11.0.drv-0/magit-2.11.0/lisp'
Cannot open load file: No such file or directory, /tmp/guix-build-magit-2.11.0.drv-0/magit-2.11.0/Documentation/magit-version.el
Generating magit.info
Compiling git-commit.el
Compiling magit-popup.el
Compiling magit-utils.el
Generating magit-autoloads.el
Generating magit-version.el
Compiling magit-section.el
Compiling magit-git.el
Compiling magit-mode.el
Compiling magit-margin.el
Compiling magit-process.el
Generating magit-popup.info
Compiling magit-autorevert.el
Compiling magit-core.el
Compiling magit-diff.el
Generating dir
make[1]: Leaving directory '/tmp/guix-build-magit-2.11.0.drv-0/magit-2.11.0/Documentation'
Compiling magit-repos.el
Compiling magit-log.el
Compiling magit-wip.el
Compiling magit-apply.el
Compiling magit.el
Compiling magit-refs.el
Compiling magit-status.el

In toplevel form:
magit-status.el:30:1:Error: Searching for program: No such file or directory, git
make[1]: *** [Makefile:61: magit-status.elc] Error 1
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....

In toplevel form:
magit-refs.el:30:1:Error: Searching for program: No such file or directory, git
make[1]: *** [Makefile:61: magit-refs.elc] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/tmp/guix-build-magit-2.11.0.drv-0/magit-2.11.0/lisp'
make: *** [Makefile:75: lisp] Error 2
phase `build' failed after 7.5 seconds
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bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Alex Kost]

Mark H Weaver (2018-02-14 13:17 -0500) wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Mark H Weaver (2018-02-14 03:51 -0500) wrote:
>>
>>> Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> writes:
>>>> I think it makes sense *not* to hardcode the path to the git executable
>>>> here.
>>>
>>> Agreed.  Done, in commit 5fe9ba59ba1cea12a70d011aacbace52e3bfda18 on
>>> master and commit 317e8e9404058af35d9843e076934560f95d895a on
>>> core-updates.  I'm closing this bug now.
>>
>> You didn't remove "git" from the inputs.  I think it is not needed now.
>
> I removed it on my first attempt, but the build failed.  See below.

Oh, right, sorry.  I use my own package for magit and it dosn't require
git input, so I thought that the original guix package also doesn't need
it.  Sorry for the confusion :-)

-- 
Alex

bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Mark H Weaver]

Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com> writes:

> Mark H Weaver (2018-02-14 13:17 -0500) wrote:
>
>> Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> You didn't remove "git" from the inputs.  I think it is not needed now.
>>
>> I removed it on my first attempt, but the build failed.  See below.
>
> Oh, right, sorry.  I use my own package for magit and it dosn't require
> git input, so I thought that the original guix package also doesn't need
> it.  Sorry for the confusion :-)

How does your own magit package avoid requiring git as an input?  I'd be
curious to see the diff between your package definition and ours.

       Mark

bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Alex Kost]

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Mark H Weaver (2018-02-16 04:09 -0500) wrote:

> Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Mark H Weaver (2018-02-14 13:17 -0500) wrote:
>>
>>> Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> You didn't remove "git" from the inputs.  I think it is not needed now.
>>>
>>> I removed it on my first attempt, but the build failed.  See below.
>>
>> Oh, right, sorry.  I use my own package for magit and it dosn't require
>> git input, so I thought that the original guix package also doesn't need
>> it.  Sorry for the confusion :-)
>
> How does your own magit package avoid requiring git as an input?  I'd be
> curious to see the diff between your package definition and ours.

My version of magit is attached.  Actually this problem (requiring git
during compilation) was introduced occasionally in Magit 2.11.0 and was
fixed soon after that, so "git" input will not be needed in the next
release.

If you want more details, tarsius (the maintainer of Magit) added some
code to bring attention for his fundraising campaign:

  https://github.com/magit/magit/commit/bf71241122e1a0bf707913c87493214ceb12f588

Then he made a release (2.11.0), but that commit introduced the
compilation fail if git wasn't available at compile-time.  This was
fixed right after the release (at the same day):

  https://github.com/magit/magit/commit/20ebb99a1dda085dfde99bf26d4d8a52fba51bcf

Finally the campaign code was removed 2 weeks later:

  https://github.com/magit/magit/commit/4a9d9e59806735100b5d20a8be32defefb659a33


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(define-public my-emacs-magit
  (package
    (inherit magit)
    (name "my-emacs-magit")
    (arguments
     (substitute-keyword-arguments (package-arguments magit)
       ((#:phases phases)
        `(modify-phases ,phases
           (replace 'patch-exec-paths
             (lambda _
               (with-directory-excursion "lisp"
                 ;; "magit.el" calls 'magit-startup-asserts' and
                 ;; 'magit-version' functions in the top level.  I don't
                 ;; need it at all.
                 (emacs-batch-edit-file "magit.el"
                   `(progn (goto-char (point-min))
                           (re-search-forward "(if after-init-time")
                           (up-list -1)
                           (kill-sexp)
                           (basic-save-buffer)))
                 (emacs-substitute-variables "magit-git.el"
                   ("magit-git-executable" "git"))

                 ;; XXX Campaign header was introduced in Magit 2.11.0
                 ;; and will be removed in the next release:
                 ;;
                 ;; https://github.com/magit/magit/commit/bf71241122e1a0bf707913c87493214ceb12f588
                 ;; https://github.com/magit/magit/commit/4a9d9e59806735100b5d20a8be32defefb659a33
                 ;;
                 ;; Change the value of 'magit-hide-campaign-header'
                 ;; variable since it calls 'git' during initializing.
                 (emacs-substitute-variables "magit-status.el"
                   ("magit-hide-campaign-header" 't))
                 #t)))))))
    (inputs '())
    (synopsis (string-append (package-synopsis magit)
                             " (without git dependency)"))))

bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Mark H Weaver]

Hi Alex,

Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com> writes:

> Mark H Weaver (2018-02-16 04:09 -0500) wrote:
>
>> How does your own magit package avoid requiring git as an input?  I'd be
>> curious to see the diff between your package definition and ours.
>
> My version of magit is attached.  Actually this problem (requiring git
> during compilation) was introduced occasionally in Magit 2.11.0 and was
> fixed soon after that, so "git" input will not be needed in the next
> release.
>
> If you want more details, tarsius (the maintainer of Magit) added some
> code to bring attention for his fundraising campaign:
>
>   https://github.com/magit/magit/commit/bf71241122e1a0bf707913c87493214ceb12f588

Thanks for interesting details, and for your modified 'magit' package
recipe.  Having looked it over, I'm inclined to leave our 'magit'
package as it is now.  It's a very quick build, and also a leaf package
(except for 'magit-svn'), so I don't see much practical benefit to
removing 'git' as an input.

Other opinions welcome :)

       Mark

bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Mark H Weaver]

Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com> writes:

> Ricardo Wurmus (2018-02-12 13:53 +0100) wrote:
>
>> The default value for “magit-git-executable” (when magit is installed
>> via Guix) appears to be a store path, such as
>> “/gnu/store/l7g5r1c2i0bf3cd71g53ajy8khdcyidz-git-2.16.1/bin/git”.  This
>> means that when magit is used over TRAMP it will try to find the exact
>> same git executable on the remote.
>>
>> Instead, magit should only look for “git” on the remote, not for the
>> exact store location of a particular git executable.
>>
>> I could only use magit over TRAMP after setting “magit-git-executable”
>> to “git”.
>
> If people will agree that changing 'magit-git-executable' is not needed,
> then I think 'git' can be removed from the inputs as it is used just for
> that variable.
>
> P.S.  I also use just "git" for 'magit-git-executable'.

That's fine with me.  IIRC, I was the one who arranged to set
'magit-git-executable' to an absolute path in the store, but in
retrospect I'm not sure it makes sense in this case, especially if it
breaks TRAMP.

     Regards,
       Mark

bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Maxim Cournoyer]

Hi Maxime,

Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> writes:

> unarchive 30434
> reopen 30434
> thanks

Why did you reopen that issue?  Does the original problem still affect
you (a hard-coded magit-git-executable causing problems when executed on
remote machines via TRAMP).

Thanks,

Maxim

bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Maxime Devos]

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On 13-07-2022 14:53, Maxim Cournoyer wrote:
> Hi Maxime,
>
> Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> writes:
>
>> unarchive 30434
>> reopen 30434
>> thanks
> Why did you reopen that issue?  Does the original problem still affect
> you (a hard-coded magit-git-executable causing problems when executed on
> remote machines via TRAMP).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Maxim

Looks like my original reply didn't come through because the archival, 
so I sent an unarchive+reopen but forgot to send the actual message 
again ... here it is:

> Nowadays 'magit' has a separate magit-git-executable:
>
>    "The Git executable used by Magit on the local host.
> On remote machines `magit-remote-git-executable' is used instead."
>
> and magit-remote-git-executable:
>
> (defcustom magit-remote-git-executable "git"
>    "The Git executable used by Magit on remote machines.
> On the local host `magit-git-executable' is used instead.
> Consider customizing `tramp-remote-path' instead of this
> option."
>
> so maybe this patch can now be reversed, such that emacs-magit
> can be used without depending on the (possibly non-existent) 'git' in
> $PATH?  Needs to be verified though.

More concretely, try "guix shell emacs emacs-magit --pure -- emacs" 
followed by "M-x magit-status" in a Git checkout, it will fail due to 
not finding the 'git' executable.

So my idea is to use the new magit changes to both make the remote TRAMP 
work and _also_ make local things work in a pure environment, undoing 
the regression that was caused by reverting the 
git->/gnu/store/.../bin/git substitution without creating new regressions.

Greetings,
Maxime.

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bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Maxim Cournoyer]

Hi Maxime,

Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> writes:


[...]

>> Nowadays 'magit' has a separate magit-git-executable:
>>
>>    "The Git executable used by Magit on the local host.
>> On remote machines `magit-remote-git-executable' is used instead."
>>
>> and magit-remote-git-executable:
>>
>> (defcustom magit-remote-git-executable "git"
>>    "The Git executable used by Magit on remote machines.
>> On the local host `magit-git-executable' is used instead.
>> Consider customizing `tramp-remote-path' instead of this
>> option."
>>
>> so maybe this patch can now be reversed, such that emacs-magit
>> can be used without depending on the (possibly non-existent) 'git' in
>> $PATH?  Needs to be verified though.
>
> More concretely, try "guix shell emacs emacs-magit --pure -- emacs"
> followed by "M-x magit-status" in a Git checkout, it will fail due to
> not finding the 'git' executable.
>
> So my idea is to use the new magit changes to both make the remote
> TRAMP work and _also_ make local things work in a pure environment,
> undoing the regression that was caused by reverting the
> git->/gnu/store/.../bin/git substitution without creating new
> regressions.

Sounds good to me!  I'll be happy to review any patch implementing it.

Maxim

bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Simon Tournier]

Hi,

This bug#30434 [1] had been closed on 14 Feb 2018 and then reopened on
18 May 2022.

1: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/30434

On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 at 00:04, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> wrote:

>> More concretely, try "guix shell emacs emacs-magit --pure -- emacs"
>> followed by "M-x magit-status" in a Git checkout, it will fail due to
>> not finding the 'git' executable.
>>
>> So my idea is to use the new magit changes to both make the remote
>> TRAMP work and _also_ make local things work in a pure environment,
>> undoing the regression that was caused by reverting the
>> git->/gnu/store/.../bin/git substitution without creating new
>> regressions.
>
> Sounds good to me!  I'll be happy to review any patch implementing it.

Now, we are 1 year, 17 weeks, 6 later after this message.  So I propose
to close this issue and then open another one for this potential patch.

WDYT?

Cheers,
simon

bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Maxime Devos]

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Op 21-09-2023 om 09:34 schreef Simon Tournier:
> Hi,
> 
> This bug#30434 [1] had been closed on 14 Feb 2018 and then reopened on
> 18 May 2022.
> 
> 1: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/30434
> 
> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 at 00:04, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> More concretely, try "guix shell emacs emacs-magit --pure -- emacs"
>>> followed by "M-x magit-status" in a Git checkout, it will fail due to
>>> not finding the 'git' executable.
>>>
>>> So my idea is to use the new magit changes to both make the remote
>>> TRAMP work and _also_ make local things work in a pure environment,
>>> undoing the regression that was caused by reverting the
>>> git->/gnu/store/.../bin/git substitution without creating new
>>> regressions.
>>
>> Sounds good to me!  I'll be happy to review any patch implementing it.
> 
> Now, we are 1 year, 17 weeks, 6 later after this message.  So I propose
> to close this issue and then open another one for this potential patch.
> 
> WDYT?

The time since that message  is irrelevant.  The bug is still there, so 
there is no good reason to close it.  If the point of closing unresolved 
bug reports is some kind of prioritization of bug reports, there's tags, 
severity levels, etc., you can use instead faking a high bug resolving 
statistics.

Best regards,
Maxime Devos.

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bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Maxime Devos]

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Op 23-09-2023 om 12:17 schreef Maxime Devos:
> Op 21-09-2023 om 09:34 schreef Simon Tournier:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This bug#30434 [1] had been closed on 14 Feb 2018 and then reopened on
>> 18 May 2022.
>>
>> 1: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/30434
>>
>> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 at 00:04, Maxim Cournoyer 
>> <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> More concretely, try "guix shell emacs emacs-magit --pure -- emacs"
>>>> followed by "M-x magit-status" in a Git checkout, it will fail due to
>>>> not finding the 'git' executable.
>>>>
>>>> So my idea is to use the new magit changes to both make the remote
>>>> TRAMP work and _also_ make local things work in a pure environment,
>>>> undoing the regression that was caused by reverting the
>>>> git->/gnu/store/.../bin/git substitution without creating new
>>>> regressions.
>>>
>>> Sounds good to me!  I'll be happy to review any patch implementing it.
>>
>> Now, we are 1 year, 17 weeks, 6 later after this message.  So I propose
>> to close this issue and then open another one for this potential patch.
>>
>> WDYT?
> 
> The time since that message  is irrelevant.  The bug is still there, so 
> there is no good reason to close it.  If the point of closing unresolved 
> bug reports is some kind of prioritization of bug reports, there's tags, 
> severity levels, etc., you can use instead faking a high bug resolving 
> statistics.

Wait, I misread -- feel free to open that new bug report.  I assumed 
‘open another one when that potential patch exists’ instead of ‘right now’.

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bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP

[Simon Tournier]

Hi,

On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 at 12:17, Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> wrote:

>>>> More concretely, try "guix shell emacs emacs-magit --pure -- emacs"
>>>> followed by "M-x magit-status" in a Git checkout, it will fail due to
>>>> not finding the 'git' executable.

For one, this had been corrected by
b59b033af3957e0de9a44733e26cbcc7114a4dfb, IMHO.  For me,

    guix shell emacs emacs-magit --pure -- emacs -q -f magit-status

just works.


>>>> So my idea is to use the new magit changes to both make the remote
>>>> TRAMP work and _also_ make local things work in a pure environment,
>>>> undoing the regression that was caused by reverting the
>>>> git->/gnu/store/.../bin/git substitution without creating new
>>>> regressions.

For two, as explained by [1], the case for TRAMP seems handled, no?


>>> Sounds good to me!  I'll be happy to review any patch implementing it.
>> 
>> Now, we are 1 year, 17 weeks, 6 later after this message.  So I propose
>> to close this issue and then open another one for this potential patch.
>> 
>> WDYT?
>
> The time since that message  is irrelevant.  The bug is still there, so 
> there is no good reason to close it.

Your report (reopened a closed one) is about two issues.  Which one is
still there?  One?  Both?  None?  Having a clear fresh bug report for
specific issue makes easier to deal with instead of a lot old thread
mixing several issues where some had been already fixed.  Somehow, it
makes it hard to know what is currently still accurate and what is not,
IMHO.

>                                       If the point of closing unresolved 
> bug reports is some kind of prioritization of bug reports, there's tags, 
> severity levels, etc., you can use instead faking a high bug resolving 
> statistics.

The point is to have an actionable bug tracker and not some spaghetti
thread where it is hard to follow between the still accurate and the
already fixed.

Ricardo opened an issue tracked as #30434.

    Subject: bug#30434: magit won’t work over TRAMP
    Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:53:22 +0100 (5 years, 31 weeks, 5 days ago)

Closed by Mark with the message:

    Agreed.  Done, in commit 5fe9ba59ba1cea12a70d011aacbace52e3bfda18 on
    master and commit 317e8e9404058af35d9843e076934560f95d895a on
    core-updates.  I'm closing this bug now.

    Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 08:52:02 +0000 (5 years, 31 weeks, 3 days ago)

And the discussion ends on:

    Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 14:00:50 -0500 (5 years, 31 weeks, 1 day ago)

Then, years later you unarchive and reopen.

    Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 15:36:02 +0200 (1 year, 18 weeks, 1 day ago)

    unarchive 30434
    reopen 30434

directly followed by Maxim’s question:

    Why did you reopen that issue?  Does the original problem still affect
    you (a hard-coded magit-git-executable causing problems when executed on
    remote machines via TRAMP).

And this bug was still open just as a reminder waiting for your patch.
The initial issue had been closed and what you are reporting is not an
issue anymore, from my understanding.  I am proposing to open a fresh
issue with accurate information from current Guix revisions about what
you consider is this bug – referencing to this one if needed.

BTW, for what it is worth, I feel your tone arrogant and that is
generating an atmosphere that does not make the collaboration friendly.

Cheers,
simon

1: [bug#59253] [PATCH] gnu: emacs-magit: Substitute git executable path.
Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com>
Mon, 14 Nov 2022 19:52:36 -0500
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https://issues.guix.gnu.org//59253
https://issues.guix.gnu.org/msgid/87cz9pvy23.fsf@kyleam.com
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