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From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Making GNUS continue to work with Gmail
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:40:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB452623574F5AB98372C3294696420@VI1PR06MB4526.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ft8shzjt.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> (Eric S. Fraga's message of "Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:30:14 +0100")

Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> On Tuesday, 11 Aug 2020 at 18:11, Robert Pluim wrote:
>> Iʼm starting to agree with Stefan here: maybe itʼs time to start using
>> a different email provider.

> The long term solution is your own domain etc.
Domain itself is maybe not enought, you probably think of running own
mailserver/website etc?

Running own server requires resources and knowledge most people don't
have, a 24/7 machine that has to be secured in a proper way.

Using a webhotel will still put user data on some corporate server that
will probably oblige to whatever "legal" request local goverment might
impose on them. Imagine having  your domain in a place like Belarus or
China. Even some of "free and democratic" countries are nowdays imposing
laws and "security" measurea that can hardly be seen as free and democratic.

For example here in Sweden they have recently passed a law that allows
police to hack into any personal computer or phone without legal request
to and authorisation by a court, on a mere suspicion of a crime.
Earlier they needed to acquire a legal permission from a public
prosecutor by presenting their suspicions and evidence for those. We
still have some way to go untill we reach Belarus level, but as it seems
by public and media's lack of concern, nothing is impossible even here.






  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-12 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-19  2:05 bug#41386: 28.0.50; Gnus nnimap OAuth 2.0 support Thomas Fitzsimmons
2020-05-19 12:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-05-19 12:58   ` Noam Postavsky
2020-05-19 13:12     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-05-20  4:02     ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-19 15:37   ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2020-05-19 16:00     ` David Engster
2020-05-19 16:12     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-05-20  3:59     ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-20 13:32       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-20 16:16         ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2020-05-21  3:45           ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-19  1:29             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-07-20  2:40               ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-10 16:13                 ` Simon Leinen
2020-08-11  3:28                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-11 20:56                     ` Simon Leinen
2020-05-22  3:07   ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-22  8:28     ` David Engster
2020-05-20  3:53 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-20 14:05   ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2020-05-21  3:47     ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-21 14:30       ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2020-05-22  3:09         ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-23 15:49           ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2020-05-24  3:54             ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-24 14:35               ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2020-05-25  4:38                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-23  4:07             ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-23 13:22               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-07-24  3:33                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-24 14:54                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-07-25  3:49                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-27 21:55                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-07-30  0:39                         ` 황병희
2020-07-30  3:04                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-06  3:45                         ` Making GNUS continue to work with Gmail Richard Stallman
2020-08-06  5:51                           ` 황병희
2020-08-06 17:08                             ` Cesar Crusius
2020-08-06 17:32                               ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-06 18:09                                 ` Cesar Crusius
2020-08-11 13:43                                   ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-11 13:55                                     ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-11 15:19                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-11 15:22                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-11 16:02                                         ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-12  2:29                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-12  5:29                                         ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-07  2:56                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-07 17:02                                 ` Cesar Crusius
2020-08-07 18:37                                   ` Michael Anckaert
2020-08-08  0:01                                     ` Cesar Crusius
2020-08-08  0:53                                       ` T.V Raman
2020-08-08  3:53                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-08  3:53                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-08  3:54                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-09  7:59                           ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-09  8:40                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-09 10:02                               ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-10  3:23                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-10  6:43                                   ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-10  9:03                                     ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-10 11:36                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-11  3:30                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-09 10:06                               ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-09 10:36                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-09 10:57                                   ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-09 11:03                                     ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-09 13:06                                       ` 황병희
2020-08-09 16:04                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-09 13:01                                 ` 황병희
2020-08-09 16:06                                   ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-10  1:03                                     ` 황병희
2020-08-10 15:54                                       ` T.V Raman
2020-08-11  2:40                                         ` 황병희
2020-08-11  9:59                                         ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-11 12:54                                           ` 황병희
2020-08-11 15:25                                           ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-11 16:11                                             ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-11 18:05                                               ` João Távora
2020-08-11 18:17                                                 ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-12  2:27                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-12  4:27                                                   ` 황병희
2020-08-12  3:41                                               ` arthur miller
2020-08-12  6:42                                                 ` tomas
2020-08-12 12:11                                                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-08-12 15:55                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-12 16:00                                                     ` tomas
2020-08-12  6:54                                               ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-12  7:53                                                 ` tomas
2020-08-12 12:40                                                   ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-13  2:09                                                     ` 황병희
2020-08-13  2:51                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-13  6:48                                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-12 11:30                                               ` Eric S Fraga
2020-08-12 12:40                                                 ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2020-08-12 13:02                                                   ` Eric S Fraga
2020-08-12 17:13                                                   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-08-13 15:39                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2020-08-13 17:40                                                 ` David Engster
2020-08-13 17:53                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-14 10:06                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-15  4:35                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-14 10:13                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-14 14:49                                                   ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-14 14:56                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-14 17:24                                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-14 17:39                                                       ` Cesar Crusius
2020-08-15  4:44                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-15  9:45                                                           ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-17  6:00                                                             ` 范凯
2020-08-17  8:23                                                               ` tomas
2020-08-17 12:30                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-17 15:09                                                                   ` tomas
2020-08-17 13:03                                                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2020-08-15 11:09                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-16  4:13                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-16  8:17                                                               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-17  3:23                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-17  7:51                                                                   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-17 16:05                                                                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2020-08-18  4:08                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-18  9:15                                                                       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-21  3:38                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-21 17:16                                                                           ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-22  7:24                                                                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-08-22  9:44                                                                               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-23  4:46                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-17 15:02                                                                   ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-17 16:44                                                                     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-17 19:34                                                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-17 21:47                                                                         ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-18  4:10                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-18  4:11                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-26 14:44                                                                     ` Eric S Fraga
2020-08-26 20:22                                                                       ` Pierre Téchoueyres
2020-08-27 11:25                                                                         ` Eric S Fraga
2020-08-27  2:50                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-27 11:28                                                                         ` Eric S Fraga
2020-08-27 12:03                                                                           ` tomas
2020-08-27 12:26                                                                             ` Making GNUS continue to work with Gail Eric S Fraga
2020-08-27 12:30                                                                           ` Making GNUS continue to work with Gmail Andrew Cohen
2020-08-27 12:52                                                                             ` Eric S Fraga
2020-08-28  3:49                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-28  5:35                                                                               ` Andrew Cohen
2020-08-29  4:10                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-28  3:50                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-01 16:23                                                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-09-02  9:57                                                                         ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-08-15 19:39                                                           ` Cesar Crusius
2020-08-16 17:23                                                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2020-08-16 11:54                                                         ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-16 14:27                                                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2020-08-11 16:09                           ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-08-12  2:28                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-12  6:47                               ` tomas
2022-10-29 15:36 ` bug#41386: 28.0.50; Gnus nnimap OAuth 2.0 support Björn Bidar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-30 12:22   ` Deus Max

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