From: no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Menu suggestion
Date: 27 Apr 2004 16:04:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3vfjlzfct.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877jw1r9i8.fsf@peder.flower>
Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> writes:
> Kim F. Storm writes:
>
> > but I have managed using emacs quite efficiently without using those
> > bindings for 20 years... And I use CUA mode too.
>
> No offence intended, but did you try the emacs cursor motion bindings?
Of course I did -- I really tried for a while, but never found it to
be efficient having to press two keys (ctrl + letter) just to move the
cursor, especially when those keys are FAR away from the control key.
Before switching to emacs, I used vi, and I think the HJKL navigation
in vi is vastly superior to emacs' native cursor movement. I also
used another popular editor at the time (can't recall its name) which
used something like C-s C-d C-e and C-x to move the cursor; that was
also much easier to use, as it could be done with one hand only.
I also worked on a classic MAC for 6 months which had no cursor keys
-- the only way to move the cursor (even a single character) was with
the mouse -- now, that was INEFFICIENT (but very smart and modern).
Besides, using C-v/M-v to scroll up and down (forcing me to change
modifier keys) is just so much less efficient than using the
pgup/pgdown keys IMO.
BTW, I also play the piano, and it may be more efficient to just let
your hands stay within one octave all the time, but the music gets
rather dull after a while :-)
> I think it is well worth the effort to invest a bit of time to learn
> them. FWIW, it took me several tries, (ie, in my case several
> summers, and viper mode) to eventually switch to Emacs.
It didn't take me that long to switch, a few days I guess -- the only
thing which was hard to get used to was the cursor motion commands; as
soon as I managed to reprogram emacs to recognize the relevant arrow
keys (that was in the good old serial terminal days), I was up to
speed, and have been a happy emacs user since.
In any case, this is the beauty of emacs -- you can configure it
to suit your personal preferences.
I like the arrow keys, I like CUA mode, but I would never claim that
my preferences are better than yours.
--
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-04-27 14:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-04-23 21:24 Menu suggestion David Kastrup
2004-04-24 13:29 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-04-24 23:02 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-25 23:35 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-26 8:23 ` Default Emacs keybindings (was: Re: Menu suggestion) Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-26 13:35 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-04-26 14:22 ` Default Emacs keybindings Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-26 13:44 ` Default Emacs keybindings (was: Re: Menu suggestion) Alan Mackenzie
2004-04-26 15:16 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-26 22:33 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-26 21:36 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-26 23:06 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-04-27 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-27 14:22 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-29 19:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-24 14:08 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-26 16:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-26 17:01 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-27 23:53 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-28 21:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-27 23:59 ` Default Emacs keybindings Stefan Daschek
2004-04-30 13:06 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-30 21:41 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-01 17:50 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-01 18:20 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-02 19:52 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-02 21:15 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-03 6:11 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-03 5:53 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 8:34 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-03 7:32 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 9:55 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-03 9:36 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-07 12:34 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2004-05-03 9:08 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2004-05-03 7:25 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 9:51 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2004-05-03 10:33 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-05-03 11:28 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-03 11:54 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2004-05-03 23:15 ` Masatake YAMATO
2004-05-04 0:11 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-03 22:21 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-03 22:59 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-04 6:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-04 7:02 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 7:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-05-04 13:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-04 15:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-05-04 21:45 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-04 21:35 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-05 5:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-05 14:29 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-05 22:20 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-05-05 14:34 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-04 20:07 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-04 12:20 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-05 20:20 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-06 12:41 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-06 14:22 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-06 14:54 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-06 15:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-08 1:20 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-08 23:20 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-04 12:25 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-03 22:21 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-03 7:48 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2004-04-26 9:56 ` Menu suggestion Kim F. Storm
2004-04-26 8:39 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-26 11:37 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-27 8:24 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-27 11:05 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-27 10:38 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2004-04-27 14:04 ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2004-04-30 13:13 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-30 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-30 17:30 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-30 19:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-30 19:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 7:18 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-03 10:25 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-04 7:32 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-27 14:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-28 10:12 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-28 5:09 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-28 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-04-28 5:55 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-28 11:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-04-28 12:57 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-04-28 6:46 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-28 12:51 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-04-29 10:44 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-29 11:27 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-26 10:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-04-26 16:36 ` jargon translation up-front in doc (was: Menu suggestion) Drew Adams
2004-04-27 6:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-04-29 1:48 ` Drew Adams
2004-04-29 15:44 ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-04-29 17:37 ` Drew Adams
2004-04-29 23:36 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-29 23:48 ` Drew Adams
2004-04-30 9:02 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-25 18:08 ` Menu suggestion Richard Stallman
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