From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Menu suggestion
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:35:47 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1BHtA3-0001FA-NX@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3brlhrncv.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (storm@cua.dk)
If you hoover the cursor over that menu item, it says:
Use C-z/C-x/C-c/C-v for undo/cut/copy/paste
There is no need to make the menu item complete
in describing the changes this mode makes.
C-x/C-c/C-v cut and paste
would be better for the menu item text.
The rest of the info could be in a help string.
A big advantage of this would be that the tutorial could just skip all
about native navigation --a user who already uses C-x C-c etc before
he starts learning emacs will also be using the cursor keys, pgdn
pgup, etc. So there's no reason to tell him about C-f C-b etc, or C-v
M-v etc. (and C-v doesn't work the emacs way anyway...).
I disagree. We want users to be offered the chance to learn
the efficient ways to do these things.
Also, this proposal would require two versions of all the translated
tutorials. That just seems like too much work.
I know the keyboard purist elite is very fond of emacs' traditional
bindings, but they do make emacs more difficult to learn than
emacs+CUA.
Why do you think the traditional Emacs bindings are harder to learn
than these bindings?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-04-25 23:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-04-23 21:24 Menu suggestion David Kastrup
2004-04-24 13:29 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-04-24 23:02 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-25 23:35 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2004-04-26 8:23 ` Default Emacs keybindings (was: Re: Menu suggestion) Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-26 13:35 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-04-26 14:22 ` Default Emacs keybindings Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-26 13:44 ` Default Emacs keybindings (was: Re: Menu suggestion) Alan Mackenzie
2004-04-26 15:16 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-26 22:33 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-26 21:36 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-26 23:06 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-04-27 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-27 14:22 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-29 19:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-24 14:08 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-26 16:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-26 17:01 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-27 23:53 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-28 21:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-27 23:59 ` Default Emacs keybindings Stefan Daschek
2004-04-30 13:06 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-30 21:41 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-01 17:50 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-01 18:20 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-02 19:52 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-02 21:15 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-03 6:11 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-03 5:53 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 8:34 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-03 7:32 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 9:55 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-03 9:36 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-07 12:34 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2004-05-03 9:08 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2004-05-03 7:25 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 9:51 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2004-05-03 10:33 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-05-03 11:28 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-03 11:54 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2004-05-03 23:15 ` Masatake YAMATO
2004-05-04 0:11 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-03 22:21 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-03 22:59 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-04 6:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-04 7:02 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 7:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-05-04 13:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-04 15:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-05-04 21:45 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-04 21:35 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-05 5:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-05 14:29 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-05 22:20 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-05-05 14:34 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-04 20:07 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-04 12:20 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-05 20:20 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-06 12:41 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-06 14:22 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-06 14:54 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-06 15:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-08 1:20 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-08 23:20 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-04 12:25 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-03 22:21 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-03 7:48 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2004-04-26 9:56 ` Menu suggestion Kim F. Storm
2004-04-26 8:39 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-26 11:37 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-27 8:24 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-27 11:05 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-27 10:38 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2004-04-27 14:04 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-30 13:13 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-30 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-30 17:30 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-30 19:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-30 19:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 7:18 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-03 10:25 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-04 7:32 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-27 14:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-28 10:12 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-28 5:09 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-28 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-04-28 5:55 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-28 11:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-04-28 12:57 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-04-28 6:46 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-28 12:51 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-04-29 10:44 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-29 11:27 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-26 10:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-04-26 16:36 ` jargon translation up-front in doc (was: Menu suggestion) Drew Adams
2004-04-27 6:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-04-29 1:48 ` Drew Adams
2004-04-29 15:44 ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-04-29 17:37 ` Drew Adams
2004-04-29 23:36 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-29 23:48 ` Drew Adams
2004-04-30 9:02 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-25 18:08 ` Menu suggestion Richard Stallman
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