From: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>,
Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@gmail.com>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: [WIP PATCH] Controlling Isearch from the minibuffer
Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 00:17:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lf8jppfi.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SA2PR10MB4474E6E87CCD655A046CF608F3529@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 12 May 2021 15:31:10 +0000")
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
>> I don't know what impacts it might have on the UI, but I've often
>> wished (from an implementation point of view) that Isearch used
>> an actual plain old minibuffer rather than mimicking one
>
> Why?
(Speaking for myself, with only a cursory reading of this thread)
While isearching, I regularly find myself reaching for regular
navigation/editing commands (C-a, C-b, M-b, M-DEL… even C-x o, on
occasion), and tripping out of isearch. This thread made me discover
M-e, but I doubt I'll use it much, since it takes the "i" out of
"isearch".
From this user's candid[1] point of view, "controlling Isearch from the
minibuffer", as the subject says, sounds like an opportunity to have one
less ad-hoc UI. Isearch already goes to some lengths to make it /look
like/ stuff is happening in a minibuffer[2], so I don't think it would
defy user expectations to actually use one.
[1] "Candid" as in, having no a priori opinion about the current,
non-minibuffer implementation (aside from those minor grievances I
just expressed); I can't tell what added value it brings, be it from
a user's point of view or from a maintainer's.
[2] E.g. printing the user's keystrokes in the echo area where the
minibuffer is by default, painting the prompt with
isearch-message-properties ≡ minibuffer-prompt-properties…
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-12 22:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-08 10:13 [WIP PATCH] Controlling Isearch from the minibuffer Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-09 13:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-05-09 17:58 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-10 19:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-05-11 9:00 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-11 15:34 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-05-11 18:31 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-11 19:38 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-12 6:45 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-12 12:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-12 15:31 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-12 22:17 ` Kévin Le Gouguec [this message]
2021-05-12 23:07 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-13 15:12 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-12 21:09 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-12 15:30 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-09 19:09 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-09 19:05 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-10 20:24 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-10 21:17 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-12 6:40 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-12 17:13 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-12 20:52 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-13 16:31 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-13 20:12 ` [ELPA?] " Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-14 1:17 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-14 8:36 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-14 17:30 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-14 18:20 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-16 11:00 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-16 18:19 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-25 20:50 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-29 11:48 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-14 18:18 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-16 18:12 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-16 18:49 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-21 9:09 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-21 10:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-21 11:56 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-21 12:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-21 12:49 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-21 15:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-21 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
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