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From: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>,
	Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: [WIP PATCH] Controlling Isearch from the minibuffer
Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 00:17:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lf8jppfi.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SA2PR10MB4474E6E87CCD655A046CF608F3529@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 12 May 2021 15:31:10 +0000")

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> I don't know what impacts it might have on the UI, but I've often
>> wished (from an implementation point of view) that Isearch used
>> an actual plain old minibuffer rather than mimicking one
>
> Why?

(Speaking for myself, with only a cursory reading of this thread)

While isearching, I regularly find myself reaching for regular
navigation/editing commands (C-a, C-b, M-b, M-DEL… even C-x o, on
occasion), and tripping out of isearch.  This thread made me discover
M-e, but I doubt I'll use it much, since it takes the "i" out of
"isearch".

From this user's candid[1] point of view, "controlling Isearch from the
minibuffer", as the subject says, sounds like an opportunity to have one
less ad-hoc UI.  Isearch already goes to some lengths to make it /look
like/ stuff is happening in a minibuffer[2], so I don't think it would
defy user expectations to actually use one.


[1] "Candid" as in, having no a priori opinion about the current,
    non-minibuffer implementation (aside from those minor grievances I
    just expressed); I can't tell what added value it brings, be it from
    a user's point of view or from a maintainer's.

[2] E.g. printing the user's keystrokes in the echo area where the
    minibuffer is by default, painting the prompt with
    isearch-message-properties ≡ minibuffer-prompt-properties…



  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-12 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-08 10:13 [WIP PATCH] Controlling Isearch from the minibuffer Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-09 13:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-05-09 17:58   ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-10 19:51     ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-05-11  9:00       ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-11 15:34         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-05-11 18:31           ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-11 19:38             ` Drew Adams
2021-05-12  6:45           ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-12 12:44             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-12 15:31               ` Drew Adams
2021-05-12 22:17                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec [this message]
2021-05-12 23:07                   ` Drew Adams
2021-05-13 15:12                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-12 21:09               ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-12 15:30             ` Drew Adams
2021-05-09 19:09   ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-09 19:05 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-10 20:24   ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-10 21:17     ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-12  6:40       ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-12 17:13         ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-12 20:52           ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-13 16:31             ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-13 20:12               ` [ELPA?] " Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-14  1:17                 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-14  8:36                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-14 17:30                 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-14 18:20                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-16 11:00                     ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-16 18:19                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-25 20:50                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-29 11:48                           ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-14 18:18                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-16 18:12                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-16 18:49                     ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-21  9:09                       ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-21 10:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-21 11:56                           ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-21 12:31                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-21 12:49                               ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-21 15:05                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-21 15:09                                 ` Eli Zaretskii

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