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From: Mike Gerwitz <mtg@gnu.org>
To: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>
Cc: Guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Meltdown / Spectre
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 22:08:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871siqv6t3.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180115080745.GA12963@thebird.nl> (Pjotr Prins's message of "Mon, 15 Jan 2018 09:07:45 +0100")

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On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 09:07:45 +0100, Pjotr Prins wrote:
> GNU Guix, however, by virtue of being a GNU project is hampered by its
> free software credentials.

"hamper" isn't a good word to use to describe the FSDG:

  From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:
  
    Hamper \Ham"per\, n. [See {Hamper} to shackle.]
       1. A shackle; a fetter; anything which impedes. --W. Browne.
          [1913 Webster]
    
  From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:
  
    Hamper \Ham"per\, v. t. [OE. hamperen, hampren, prob. of the
       same origin as E. hamble.]
       To put a hamper or fetter on; to shackle; to insnare; to
       inveigle; to entangle; hence, to impede in motion or
       progress; to embarrass; to encumber. "Hampered nerves."
       --Blackmore.
       [1913 Webster]
    
             A lion hampered in a net.                --L'Estrange.
       [1913 Webster]
    
             They hamper and entangle our souls.      --Tillotson.
       [1913 Webster]

The FSDG is mean to liberate, not hamper; we're all stronger because
of Guix's adherence to it.  This is perhaps the only occasion I can
think of---and is admittedly very awkward---where the software running
on a computer is considered fine if we pretend that it doesn't exist as
software, but becomes a problem if we recognize its existence and
attempt to update it.  This is a conflict that needs resolution, but I'm
not offering that here---I just wanted to comment on the phrasing.

-- 
Mike Gerwitz
Free Software Hacker+Activist | GNU Maintainer & Volunteer
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-16  3:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-06 13:20 What do Meltdown and Spectre mean for libreboot x200 user? Alex Vong
2018-01-06 17:23 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-01-06 17:43 ` Meltdown / Spectre Leo Famulari
2018-01-06 20:15   ` Mark H Weaver
2018-01-07  6:38     ` Mark H Weaver
2018-01-07 21:23       ` bug#30015: WebKitGTK nondeterministic build failures Mark H Weaver
2018-01-09 20:14         ` Efraim Flashner
2018-01-10  5:49         ` Leo Famulari
2020-03-22 20:40           ` Leo Famulari
2018-01-07 21:29       ` Meltdown / Spectre Mark H Weaver
2018-01-09 21:39         ` Alex Vong
2018-01-10  4:59           ` Leo Famulari
2018-01-16 10:57             ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-19 22:06               ` Mark H Weaver
2018-01-20  0:17                 ` Leo Famulari
2018-01-21 16:26                   ` Mark H Weaver
2018-01-24 14:23                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-24 16:19                       ` Mark H Weaver
2018-01-26 22:05                       ` Mark H Weaver
2018-01-27 16:12                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-10 15:00           ` ng0
2018-01-08 10:30       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-10  5:27       ` Leo Famulari
2018-01-07  2:44   ` Chris Marusich
2018-01-08 17:22     ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2018-01-08 18:26       ` Marius Bakke
2018-01-08 21:51         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2018-01-08 22:01           ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2018-01-09 20:13           ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2018-01-09 21:18             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2018-01-10  5:26               ` Leo Famulari
2018-01-11 19:45                 ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2018-01-11 21:49                   ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2018-01-10 10:46               ` Tobias Platen
2018-01-10 17:20                 ` Leo Famulari
2018-01-10  6:43             ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-01-10 18:41               ` Kei Kebreau
2018-01-16  3:58             ` Chris Marusich
2018-01-17 19:20               ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-01-14 15:11           ` Alex Vong
2018-01-09 23:10         ` Mark H Weaver
2018-01-10  5:04           ` Leo Famulari
2018-01-16 11:10             ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-17  2:38               ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-01-17 14:11                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-10  9:36           ` Chris Marusich
2018-01-10 11:49             ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2018-01-10 12:35               ` Tobias Platen
2018-01-10 14:04                 ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-01-12  0:25                   ` Marius Bakke
2018-01-15  8:07                   ` Pjotr Prins
2018-01-16  3:08                     ` Mike Gerwitz [this message]
2018-01-16 10:04                       ` Pjotr Prins
2018-01-12  7:39                 ` Chris Marusich

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