From: Daniel Littlewood <danielittlewood@gmail.com>
To: Kaelyn <kaelyn.alexi@protonmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 17:39:08 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFDSbVcG90X2s9_A2qULXAAbRZPobAhypWL5_UeVen+bejR79w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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Hi Kaelyn,
The legal question is unsettled, and there is ongoing litigation by
(at least) Matthew Butterick in the US, since at least 2022. The
reasonable positions I'm aware of are:
1. An LLM (or, more precisely, the set of weights that define it) is
not a derivative work of its training data, for the purposes of
copyright, and thus the license is irrelevant.
2. Producing an LLM from training data is a transformative fair use,
and thus the license is irrelevant.
3. Neither 1 nor 2 holds, and LLMs constitute copyright infringement
on a profound scale (of both copyrighted and copylefted works).
The FSF and CC have both commissioned white papers on the impact of
such considerations for Free works. I don't recall seeing anything
particularly insightful in them. Probably a waste of time to discuss
it here.
Best wishes,
Dan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-18 19:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-16 15:52 Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ian Eure
2024-03-16 17:50 ` Christopher Baines
2024-03-16 18:24 ` MSavoritias
2024-03-16 19:08 ` Christopher Baines
2024-03-16 19:45 ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-17 7:06 ` MSavoritias
2024-03-16 19:06 ` Ian Eure
2024-03-16 19:49 ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-16 23:16 ` Vivien Kraus
2024-03-16 23:27 ` Tomas Volf
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2024-03-16 23:40 ` Fw: " Ryan Prior
2024-03-16 17:58 ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 9:50 ` Please hold your horses Simon Tournier
2024-03-16 21:37 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ryan Prior
2024-03-17 9:39 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2024-03-17 9:47 ` MSavoritias
2024-03-17 11:53 ` paul
2024-03-17 11:57 ` MSavoritias
2024-03-17 14:57 ` Richard Sent
2024-03-17 16:28 ` Ian Eure
2024-03-17 12:51 ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-17 23:56 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-03-20 15:25 ` contributor uuid (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive) bae66428a8ad58eafaa98cb0ab2e512f045974ecf4bf947e32096fae574d99c6
2024-03-17 16:20 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ian Eure
2024-03-17 16:55 ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 14:04 ` pinoaffe
2024-03-17 13:03 ` Olivier Dion
2024-03-17 17:57 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-03-20 17:22 ` the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive) Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-03-21 6:12 ` MSavoritias
2024-03-21 10:49 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-03-21 11:51 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-03-21 11:52 ` pinoaffe
2024-03-21 15:08 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-03-21 15:11 ` MSavoritias
2024-03-21 22:11 ` Philip McGrath
2024-03-21 16:17 ` pinoaffe
2024-03-21 15:23 ` Hartmut Goebel
2024-03-21 15:27 ` MSavoritias
2024-03-21 15:54 ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-03-22 4:33 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-03-21 16:18 ` Efraim Flashner
2024-03-21 16:23 ` pinoaffe
2024-03-18 9:28 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Simon Tournier
2024-03-18 11:47 ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 13:12 ` Simon Tournier
2024-03-18 14:00 ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 14:32 ` Simon Tournier
2024-03-18 16:27 ` Kaelyn
2024-03-18 17:39 ` Daniel Littlewood [this message]
2024-03-18 20:38 ` Olivier Dion
2024-03-18 19:38 ` Ian Eure
2024-03-18 22:02 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-03-19 10:58 ` Simon Tournier
2024-03-19 15:37 ` Ian Eure
2024-03-18 11:14 ` Content-Addressed system and history? Simon Tournier
2024-04-20 18:48 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ian Eure
2024-05-01 15:29 ` Ian Eure
2024-05-01 15:41 ` Tomas Volf
2024-05-02 10:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-05-09 16:00 ` Maxim Cournoyer
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