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From: "Philip McGrath" <philip@philipmcgrath.com>
To: MSavoritias <email@msavoritias.me>,
	"Giovanni Biscuolo" <g@xelera.eu>, pinoaffe <pinoaffe@gmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 18:11:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <862e5290-c1fc-420c-862a-ddd8c2ff6468@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6f78e921-2dcb-a83f-f958-f9f043a69aec@fannys.me>


On Thu, Mar 21, 2024, at 11:11 AM, MSavoritias wrote:
> On 3/21/24 17:08, Giovanni Biscuolo wrote:
>> […]
>> I don't understand how using petnames, uuids or even a re:claimID
>> identity (see below) could solve the problem with "rewriting history" in
>> case a person wishes to change his or her previous _published_ name
>> (petname, uuid...) in an archived content-addressable storage system.
>
> It doesnt solve the problem of rewriting history. It solves the bug of 
> having names part of the git history.
>
> see also https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/20960 for Gitlab 
> doing the same thing.
>

Unless I’m missing something, the linked Gitlab issue seems to be a proposal by someone in February 2018 that Gitlab adopt some system of using UUIDs instead of author information. There was fairly limited discussion, with the last comment in May 2018. There does not seem to have been a consensus supporting the proposal, and I’m not seeing any indication that Gitlab plans to implement the proposal.

Furthermore, the author and committer metadata are not the only places where people’s names appear in Guix. For example, I know some font packages that mention the name of the font designer in the package’s description. More broadly, Guix also refers to package sources by their content hashes: most sources probably contain some people’s names, and any of these could face the same problems as names directly included in the Guix Git repository.

I strongly believe in the importance of protecting trans people from harassment. I don’t know how to solve the tension with long-term bit-for-bit reproducibility. 

Philip


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-21 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-16 15:52 Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ian Eure
2024-03-16 17:50 ` Christopher Baines
2024-03-16 18:24   ` MSavoritias
2024-03-16 19:08     ` Christopher Baines
2024-03-16 19:45     ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-17  7:06       ` MSavoritias
2024-03-16 19:06   ` Ian Eure
2024-03-16 19:49     ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-16 23:16   ` Vivien Kraus
2024-03-16 23:27     ` Tomas Volf
     [not found]     ` <EoCuAq3N681mOIAh7ptCyXiyscM9R0iPDBWId1eS4EbTJ2-ARWNfGuqtXIvmqcJNBl1SQvMM4X6-GiC5LiUv4TJv6J4ritPA3uZ2JBwkAzQ=@protonmail.com>
2024-03-16 23:40       ` Fw: " Ryan Prior
2024-03-16 17:58 ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18  9:50   ` Please hold your horses Simon Tournier
2024-03-16 21:37 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ryan Prior
2024-03-17  9:39   ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2024-03-17  9:47     ` MSavoritias
2024-03-17 11:53       ` paul
2024-03-17 11:57         ` MSavoritias
2024-03-17 14:57           ` Richard Sent
2024-03-17 16:28           ` Ian Eure
2024-03-17 12:51         ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-17 23:56           ` Attila Lendvai
2024-03-20 15:25         ` contributor uuid (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive) bae66428a8ad58eafaa98cb0ab2e512f045974ecf4bf947e32096fae574d99c6
2024-03-17 16:20       ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ian Eure
2024-03-17 16:55         ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 14:04     ` pinoaffe
2024-03-17 13:03 ` Olivier Dion
2024-03-17 17:57 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-03-20 17:22   ` the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive) Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-03-21  6:12     ` MSavoritias
2024-03-21 10:49       ` Attila Lendvai
2024-03-21 11:51       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-03-21 11:52       ` pinoaffe
2024-03-21 15:08         ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-03-21 15:11           ` MSavoritias
2024-03-21 22:11             ` Philip McGrath [this message]
2024-03-21 16:17           ` pinoaffe
2024-03-21 15:23       ` Hartmut Goebel
2024-03-21 15:27         ` MSavoritias
2024-03-21 15:54           ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-03-22  4:33           ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-03-21 16:18         ` Efraim Flashner
2024-03-21 16:23         ` pinoaffe
2024-03-18  9:28 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Simon Tournier
2024-03-18 11:47   ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 13:12     ` Simon Tournier
2024-03-18 14:00       ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 14:32         ` Simon Tournier
2024-03-18 16:27   ` Kaelyn
2024-03-18 17:39     ` Daniel Littlewood
2024-03-18 20:38     ` Olivier Dion
2024-03-18 19:38   ` Ian Eure
2024-03-18 22:02     ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-03-19 10:58     ` Simon Tournier
2024-03-19 15:37       ` Ian Eure
2024-03-18 11:14 ` Content-Addressed system and history? Simon Tournier
2024-04-20 18:48 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ian Eure
2024-05-01 15:29   ` Ian Eure
2024-05-01 15:41     ` Tomas Volf
2024-05-02 10:28   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-05-09 16:00     ` Maxim Cournoyer

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