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From: Attila Lendvai <attila@lendvai.name>
To: MSavoritias <email@msavoritias.me>
Cc: Giovanni Biscuolo <g@xelera.eu>, guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 10:49:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9c9xbOszA4xJvTGNwB9RZLmacebEkKMb51IqcojhT5Oqtjor9jaKoN_GJAgByQ4rWr6NWcsjOaysPrl1RbVhgQlH5CpDqLG56Wj0E5YP-as=@lendvai.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5c12f0bd-967e-2d7d-aa06-234cbd203d58@fannys.me>

> We are talking about social rules that we have here in the Guix
> community not legal/state rules.


ethics, i.e. the discussion of rights, is a branch of philosophy.

ideally, it should inform the people who are writing and enforcing state laws, but these days -- sadly -- it has precious little to do with state laws. and i think you're the one here who conflates the two.


> Specifically the social rules that we support trans people and we want
> to include them. Any person really that want to change their name at
> some point for some reason.
>
> To that end we listen to their concerns/wishes and we accommodate them.


i've asked you this before, and i'll keep asking it: sure, accommodate, but to what extent? what is a reasonable cost i can incur on others? (see the discussion of negative vs. positive rights in this context)

what if i declare that i only feel accommodated here if everyone attaches the local weather forcast to each mail they send to guix-devel?

the limit of your demands begins where it starts to constrain the freedom of others. considering this is an essential part of respectful behavior towards others.

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• attila lendvai
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“I am not what happened to me, I am what I choose to become.”
	— Carl Jung (1875–1961)



  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-21 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-16 15:52 Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ian Eure
2024-03-16 17:50 ` Christopher Baines
2024-03-16 18:24   ` MSavoritias
2024-03-16 19:08     ` Christopher Baines
2024-03-16 19:45     ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-17  7:06       ` MSavoritias
2024-03-16 19:06   ` Ian Eure
2024-03-16 19:49     ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-16 23:16   ` Vivien Kraus
2024-03-16 23:27     ` Tomas Volf
     [not found]     ` <EoCuAq3N681mOIAh7ptCyXiyscM9R0iPDBWId1eS4EbTJ2-ARWNfGuqtXIvmqcJNBl1SQvMM4X6-GiC5LiUv4TJv6J4ritPA3uZ2JBwkAzQ=@protonmail.com>
2024-03-16 23:40       ` Fw: " Ryan Prior
2024-03-16 17:58 ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18  9:50   ` Please hold your horses Simon Tournier
2024-03-16 21:37 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ryan Prior
2024-03-17  9:39   ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2024-03-17  9:47     ` MSavoritias
2024-03-17 11:53       ` paul
2024-03-17 11:57         ` MSavoritias
2024-03-17 14:57           ` Richard Sent
2024-03-17 16:28           ` Ian Eure
2024-03-17 12:51         ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-17 23:56           ` Attila Lendvai
2024-03-20 15:25         ` contributor uuid (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive) bae66428a8ad58eafaa98cb0ab2e512f045974ecf4bf947e32096fae574d99c6
2024-03-17 16:20       ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ian Eure
2024-03-17 16:55         ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 14:04     ` pinoaffe
2024-03-17 13:03 ` Olivier Dion
2024-03-17 17:57 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-03-20 17:22   ` the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive) Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-03-21  6:12     ` MSavoritias
2024-03-21 10:49       ` Attila Lendvai [this message]
2024-03-21 11:51       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-03-21 11:52       ` pinoaffe
2024-03-21 15:08         ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-03-21 15:11           ` MSavoritias
2024-03-21 22:11             ` Philip McGrath
2024-03-21 16:17           ` pinoaffe
2024-03-21 15:23       ` Hartmut Goebel
2024-03-21 15:27         ` MSavoritias
2024-03-21 15:54           ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-03-22  4:33           ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-03-21 16:18         ` Efraim Flashner
2024-03-21 16:23         ` pinoaffe
2024-03-18  9:28 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Simon Tournier
2024-03-18 11:47   ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 13:12     ` Simon Tournier
2024-03-18 14:00       ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 14:32         ` Simon Tournier
2024-03-18 16:27   ` Kaelyn
2024-03-18 17:39     ` Daniel Littlewood
2024-03-18 20:38     ` Olivier Dion
2024-03-18 19:38   ` Ian Eure
2024-03-18 22:02     ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-03-19 10:58     ` Simon Tournier
2024-03-19 15:37       ` Ian Eure
2024-03-18 11:14 ` Content-Addressed system and history? Simon Tournier
2024-04-20 18:48 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ian Eure
2024-05-01 15:29   ` Ian Eure
2024-05-01 15:41     ` Tomas Volf
2024-05-02 10:28   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-05-09 16:00     ` Maxim Cournoyer

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