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From: Ekaitz Zarraga <ekaitz@elenq.tech>
To: MSavoritias <email@msavoritias.me>,
	Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com>,
	guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 16:54:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5f905064-c469-c0d2-8785-6f1e8feccea5@elenq.tech> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1a9f2409-a502-237a-d92b-e53abd912d9c@fannys.me>

Hi,

> What are you implying with the "loud" minority here?
> 
> 
> MSavoritias

He's probably talking about the same thing that made you continue being 
heated after the fact you were told to calm down and you are not wasting 
any single opportunity to continue answering every single email in this 
thread and all the subthreads that continue to appear.

I don't want to look insensitive but I think we are revolving around the 
same issue over and over again and honestly it's bothering me.

Not the discussion itself, which has a profound meaning and it's a deep 
issue, but the way it is taking place and where it is taking place.

It's also extremely sad to me to see many unanswered questions in the 
help-guix mailing list, which might or might not include questions from 
trans people that are willing to use the fantastic software we all 
collectively maintain and which would help them have a better life, and 
yet we are talking about the detail of the detail here for no real 
reason: this conversation does not have any practical purpose.

Also there are hundreds of issues open in guix, which don't happen to 
deserve the attention this discussion has.

I don't think this conversation is going to reach anywhere, and I would 
like to encourage people to spend their energy somewhere else until we 
really start having a different mindset on the issue. As we were 
suggested to do.

I don't think this is a topic for `guix-devel` mailing list. If it is, 
please let me know and change my expectations accordingly.

My suggestion is: if this is an actual problem with guix's software, we 
should open an issue for this, for those who are interested on actually 
trying to improve the situation. If it's not a problem with guix, then 
this conversation is just an exercise of ethical and intellectual 
bragging that is just uninteresting to me and more appropriate for 
social media.

Best,
Ekaitz



  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-21 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-16 15:52 Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ian Eure
2024-03-16 17:50 ` Christopher Baines
2024-03-16 18:24   ` MSavoritias
2024-03-16 19:08     ` Christopher Baines
2024-03-16 19:45     ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-17  7:06       ` MSavoritias
2024-03-16 19:06   ` Ian Eure
2024-03-16 19:49     ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-16 23:16   ` Vivien Kraus
2024-03-16 23:27     ` Tomas Volf
     [not found]     ` <EoCuAq3N681mOIAh7ptCyXiyscM9R0iPDBWId1eS4EbTJ2-ARWNfGuqtXIvmqcJNBl1SQvMM4X6-GiC5LiUv4TJv6J4ritPA3uZ2JBwkAzQ=@protonmail.com>
2024-03-16 23:40       ` Fw: " Ryan Prior
2024-03-16 17:58 ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18  9:50   ` Please hold your horses Simon Tournier
2024-03-16 21:37 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ryan Prior
2024-03-17  9:39   ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2024-03-17  9:47     ` MSavoritias
2024-03-17 11:53       ` paul
2024-03-17 11:57         ` MSavoritias
2024-03-17 14:57           ` Richard Sent
2024-03-17 16:28           ` Ian Eure
2024-03-17 12:51         ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-17 23:56           ` Attila Lendvai
2024-03-20 15:25         ` contributor uuid (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive) bae66428a8ad58eafaa98cb0ab2e512f045974ecf4bf947e32096fae574d99c6
2024-03-17 16:20       ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ian Eure
2024-03-17 16:55         ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 14:04     ` pinoaffe
2024-03-17 13:03 ` Olivier Dion
2024-03-17 17:57 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-03-20 17:22   ` the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive) Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-03-21  6:12     ` MSavoritias
2024-03-21 10:49       ` Attila Lendvai
2024-03-21 11:51       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-03-21 11:52       ` pinoaffe
2024-03-21 15:08         ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-03-21 15:11           ` MSavoritias
2024-03-21 22:11             ` Philip McGrath
2024-03-21 16:17           ` pinoaffe
2024-03-21 15:23       ` Hartmut Goebel
2024-03-21 15:27         ` MSavoritias
2024-03-21 15:54           ` Ekaitz Zarraga [this message]
2024-03-22  4:33           ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-03-21 16:18         ` Efraim Flashner
2024-03-21 16:23         ` pinoaffe
2024-03-18  9:28 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Simon Tournier
2024-03-18 11:47   ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 13:12     ` Simon Tournier
2024-03-18 14:00       ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 14:32         ` Simon Tournier
2024-03-18 16:27   ` Kaelyn
2024-03-18 17:39     ` Daniel Littlewood
2024-03-18 20:38     ` Olivier Dion
2024-03-18 19:38   ` Ian Eure
2024-03-18 22:02     ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-03-19 10:58     ` Simon Tournier
2024-03-19 15:37       ` Ian Eure
2024-03-18 11:14 ` Content-Addressed system and history? Simon Tournier
2024-04-20 18:48 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ian Eure
2024-05-01 15:29   ` Ian Eure
2024-05-01 15:41     ` Tomas Volf
2024-05-02 10:28   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-05-09 16:00     ` Maxim Cournoyer

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