Syntax errors in latest guix-manual ru.po

Syntax errors in latest guix-manual ru.po

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hello Pavlo,


Thanks for the update to the Russian translation of the Guix manual!  It
contains a couple of Texinfo syntax errors:

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  MAKEINFO doc/guix.ru.info
./doc/guix.ru.texi:11: warning: @documentencoding devus aperi nur je komenco de linio
./doc/guix.ru.texi:11: warning: @documentencoding ne devus aperi en @documentencoding
./doc/guix.ru.texi:11: misa argumento por '@documentencoding': UTF-8@documentencoding UTF-8
./doc/guix.ru.texi:937: warning: post akcentkomando '@,' ne devus sekvi blankspaco
doc/contributing.ru.texi:1198: nekonata komando 'Uref'
doc/contributing.ru.texi:1199: misloka {
doc/contributing.ru.texi:1199: misloka }
./doc/guix.ru.texi:28220: @pxref referenco al neekzistanta nodo «Build Systems)»
Wide character in warn at /home/ludo/.guix-profile/bin/makeinfo line 632.
doc/contributing.ru.texi:1238: @pxref referenco al neekzistanta nodo «Отслеживание ошибок и исправлений»
Wide character in warn at /home/ludo/.guix-profile/bin/makeinfo line 632.
doc/contributing.ru.texi:1274: @pxref referenco al neekzistanta nodo «Отправка исправлений»
make[2]: *** [Makefile:4233: doc/guix.ru.info] Error 1
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Could you take a look and post an update on the Translation Project?

Let me know if you need help to address these.

Ludo’.

Re: Syntax errors in latest guix-manual ru.po

[Pavlo Marianov]

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Hello.
I uploaded a new PO-file.
Hope it fixes that error.

пн, 6 квіт. 2020 о 13:00 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> пише:

> Hello Pavlo,
>
>
> Thanks for the update to the Russian translation of the Guix manual!  It
> contains a couple of Texinfo syntax errors:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>   MAKEINFO doc/guix.ru.info
> ./doc/guix.ru.texi:11: warning: @documentencoding devus aperi nur je
> komenco de linio
> ./doc/guix.ru.texi:11: warning: @documentencoding ne devus aperi en
> @documentencoding
> ./doc/guix.ru.texi:11: misa argumento por '@documentencoding':
> UTF-8@documentencoding UTF-8
> ./doc/guix.ru.texi:937: warning: post akcentkomando '@,' ne devus sekvi
> blankspaco
> doc/contributing.ru.texi:1198: nekonata komando 'Uref'
> doc/contributing.ru.texi:1199: misloka {
> doc/contributing.ru.texi:1199: misloka }
> ./doc/guix.ru.texi:28220: @pxref referenco al neekzistanta nodo «Build
> Systems)»
> Wide character in warn at /home/ludo/.guix-profile/bin/makeinfo line 632.
> doc/contributing.ru.texi:1238: @pxref referenco al neekzistanta nodo
> «Отслеживание ошибок и исправлений»
> Wide character in warn at /home/ludo/.guix-profile/bin/makeinfo line 632.
> doc/contributing.ru.texi:1274: @pxref referenco al neekzistanta nodo
> «Отправка исправлений»
> make[2]: *** [Makefile:4233: doc/guix.ru.info] Error 1
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Could you take a look and post an update on the Translation Project?
>
> Let me know if you need help to address these.
>
> Ludo’.
>

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Re: Syntax errors in latest guix-manual ru.po

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi Pavlo,

Pavlo Marianov <acid@jack.kiev.ua> skribis:

> I uploaded a new PO-file.
> Hope it fixes that error.

Thanks for the quick reply!  There’s a few issues left:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
./doc/guix.ru.texi:946: warning: accent command `@,' must not be followed by whitespace
doc/contributing.ru.texi:365: @url missing closing brace
Wide character in warn at /home/ludo/.guix-profile/bin/makeinfo line 632.
./doc/guix.ru.texi:28262: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Системы сборки)'
Wide character in warn at /home/ludo/.guix-profile/bin/makeinfo line 632.
doc/contributing.ru.texi:105: @xref reference to nonexistent node `Запуск guix environment'
Wide character in warn at /home/ludo/.guix-profile/bin/makeinfo line 632.
doc/contributing.ru.texi:915: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Отправка набора патчей'
make[2]: *** [Makefile:4236: doc/guix.ru.info] Error 1
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Does that make sense to you?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

Re: Syntax errors in latest guix-manual ru.po

[Pavlo Marianov]

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Looks like errors like 'reference to nonexistent node' will remain
until all text will be translated.

Other errors I could not find in the source PO-file. Maybe coordinates are
wrong. For example reference 'guix.texi:946' is missing in the
https://translationproject.org/PO-files/ru/guix-manual-1.1.0-pre1.ru.po

вт, 7 квіт. 2020 о 12:44 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> пише:

> Hi Pavlo,
>
> Pavlo Marianov <acid@jack.kiev.ua> skribis:
>
> > I uploaded a new PO-file.
> > Hope it fixes that error.
>
> Thanks for the quick reply!  There’s a few issues left:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> ./doc/guix.ru.texi:946: warning: accent command `@,' must not be followed
> by whitespace
> doc/contributing.ru.texi:365: @url missing closing brace
> Wide character in warn at /home/ludo/.guix-profile/bin/makeinfo line 632.
> ./doc/guix.ru.texi:28262: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Системы
> сборки)'
> Wide character in warn at /home/ludo/.guix-profile/bin/makeinfo line 632.
> doc/contributing.ru.texi:105: @xref reference to nonexistent node `Запуск
> guix environment'
> Wide character in warn at /home/ludo/.guix-profile/bin/makeinfo line 632.
> doc/contributing.ru.texi:915: @pxref reference to nonexistent node
> `Отправка набора патчей'
> make[2]: *** [Makefile:4236: doc/guix.ru.info] Error 1
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Does that make sense to you?
>
> Thanks,
> Ludo’.
>

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Re: Syntax errors in latest guix-manual ru.po

[Julien Lepiller]

Le 7 avril 2020 06:03:18 GMT-04:00, Pavlo Marianov <acid@jack.kiev.ua> a écrit :
>Looks like errors like 'reference to nonexistent node' will remain
>until all text will be translated.
>
>Other errors I could not find in the source PO-file. Maybe coordinates
>are
>wrong. For example reference 'guix.texi:946' is missing in the
>https://translationproject.org/PO-files/ru/guix-manual-1.1.0-pre1.ru.po
>
>вт, 7 квіт. 2020 о 12:44 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> пише:
>
>> Hi Pavlo,
>>
>> Pavlo Marianov <acid@jack.kiev.ua> skribis:
>>
>> > I uploaded a new PO-file.
>> > Hope it fixes that error.
>>
>> Thanks for the quick reply!  There’s a few issues left:
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> ./doc/guix.ru.texi:946: warning: accent command `@,' must not be
>followed
>> by whitespace
>> doc/contributing.ru.texi:365: @url missing closing brace
>> Wide character in warn at /home/ludo/.guix-profile/bin/makeinfo line
>632.
>> ./doc/guix.ru.texi:28262: @pxref reference to nonexistent node
>`Системы
>> сборки)'
>> Wide character in warn at /home/ludo/.guix-profile/bin/makeinfo line
>632.
>> doc/contributing.ru.texi:105: @xref reference to nonexistent node
>`Запуск
>> guix environment'
>> Wide character in warn at /home/ludo/.guix-profile/bin/makeinfo line
>632.
>> doc/contributing.ru.texi:915: @pxref reference to nonexistent node
>> `Отправка набора патчей'
>> make[2]: *** [Makefile:4236: doc/guix.ru.info] Error 1
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>> Does that make sense to you?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ludo’.
>>

During my translation I also found it was difficult to keep nodes in sync. That's why I added some code to the Makefile so that it will automatically translate node names in the file. Translate nodes, but keep references to them in English. The makefile will find your translation and automatically replace @ref etc.

Re: Syntax errors in latest guix-manual ru.po

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi,

Pavlo Marianov <acid@jack.kiev.ua> skribis:

>> doc/contributing.ru.texi:365: @url missing closing brace

This one is:

  CI-системой @url{@value{SUBSTITUTE-SERVER}.
                                           ^
Julien, do we need to do anything for the non-existent node names or is
there “something” that’ll take care of it?  (Somehow I can never
remember how that works.)

Ludo’.

Re: Syntax errors in latest guix-manual ru.po

[Julien Lepiller]

Le 7 avril 2020 16:17:49 GMT-04:00, "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org> a écrit :
>Hi,
>
>Pavlo Marianov <acid@jack.kiev.ua> skribis:
>
>>> doc/contributing.ru.texi:365: @url missing closing brace
>
>This one is:
>
>  CI-системой @url{@value{SUBSTITUTE-SERVER}.
>                                           ^
>Julien, do we need to do anything for the non-existent node names or is
>there “something” that’ll take care of it?  (Somehow I can never
>remember how that works.)
>
>Ludo’.

You translate the menu and @node. You don't need to translate references like @ref, @xref or @pxref. The xref_command takes care of that (guix self) uses its own parser too. For references outside the guix manual, I use the English name too because they were not translated. It's ok to translate URLs to point to translated resources.

Re: Syntax errors in latest guix-manual ru.po

[Pavlo Marianov]

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I understood about @ref, @xref, etc.
So I fixed all those wrongly translated strings and uploaded to TP.

ср, 8 квіт. 2020 о 02:40 Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu> пише:

> Le 7 avril 2020 16:17:49 GMT-04:00, "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org> a
> écrit :
> >Hi,
> >
> >Pavlo Marianov <acid@jack.kiev.ua> skribis:
> >
> >>> doc/contributing.ru.texi:365: @url missing closing brace
> >
> >This one is:
> >
> >  CI-системой @url{@value{SUBSTITUTE-SERVER}.
> >                                           ^
> >Julien, do we need to do anything for the non-existent node names or is
> >there “something” that’ll take care of it?  (Somehow I can never
> >remember how that works.)
> >
> >Ludo’.
>
> You translate the menu and @node. You don't need to translate references
> like @ref, @xref or @pxref. The xref_command takes care of that (guix self)
> uses its own parser too. For references outside the guix manual, I use the
> English name too because they were not translated. It's ok to translate
> URLs to point to translated resources.
>

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Re: Syntax errors in latest guix-manual ru.po

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi,

Pavlo Marianov <acid@jack.kiev.ua> skribis:

> So I fixed all those wrongly translated strings and uploaded to TP.

The problem is still there:

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$ wget -qO - https://translationproject.org/latest/guix-manual/ru.po |grep '^msgstr.*@url{@value'
msgstr "Если ваш пакет собирается без ошибок, пришлите нам свой патч (@pxref{Submitting Patches}). Если вам нужна помощь, мы будем рады помочь вам со своей стороны. После фиксации патча в репозитории Guix новый пакет будет автоматически собран для всех поддерживаемых платформ нашей CI-системой @url{@value{SUBSTITUTE-SERVER}."
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Or maybe there’s some delay somewhere?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

Re: Syntax errors in latest guix-manual ru.po

[Pavlo Marianov]

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Ah, saw that problem. One '}' was missed.

ср, 8 квіт. 2020 о 13:35 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> пише:

> Hi,
>
> Pavlo Marianov <acid@jack.kiev.ua> skribis:
>
> > So I fixed all those wrongly translated strings and uploaded to TP.
>
> The problem is still there:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> $ wget -qO - https://translationproject.org/latest/guix-manual/ru.po
> |grep '^msgstr.*@url{@value'
> msgstr "Если ваш пакет собирается без ошибок, пришлите нам свой патч
> (@pxref{Submitting Patches}). Если вам нужна помощь, мы будем рады помочь
> вам со своей стороны. После фиксации патча в репозитории Guix новый пакет
> будет автоматически собран для всех поддерживаемых платформ нашей
> CI-системой @url{@value{SUBSTITUTE-SERVER}."
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Or maybe there’s some delay somewhere?
>
> Thanks,
> Ludo’.
>

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Re: Syntax errors in latest guix-manual ru.po

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi,

I’m really sorry but there’s still one error:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
  MAKEINFO doc/guix.ru.info
./doc/guix.ru.texi:946: warning: accent command `@,' must not be followed by whitespace
./doc/guix.ru.texi:28289: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Build Systems)'
make[2]: *** [Makefile:4239: doc/guix.ru.info] Error 1
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

There’s an extra closing paren here.

Julien, do you have ideas on how we could improve this workflow?
Perhaps have an automated system that applies the latest PO files and
sends a report to translators?

Ludo’.

Re: Syntax errors in latest guix-manual ru.po

[Pavlo Marianov]

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'Build Systems)' fixed.
But I still can't find odd whitespace in guix.ru.texi:946. I need a context.

чт, 9 квіт. 2020 о 12:37 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> пише:

> Hi,
>
> I’m really sorry but there’s still one error:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>   MAKEINFO doc/guix.ru.info
> ./doc/guix.ru.texi:946: warning: accent command `@,' must not be followed
> by whitespace
> ./doc/guix.ru.texi:28289: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Build
> Systems)'
> make[2]: *** [Makefile:4239: doc/guix.ru.info] Error 1
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> There’s an extra closing paren here.
>
> Julien, do you have ideas on how we could improve this workflow?
> Perhaps have an automated system that applies the latest PO files and
> sends a report to translators?
>
> Ludo’.
>

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Re: Syntax errors in latest guix-manual ru.po

[Julien Lepiller]

Le 9 avril 2020 05:37:54 GMT-04:00, "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org> a écrit :
>Hi,
>
>I’m really sorry but there’s still one error:
>
>--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>  MAKEINFO doc/guix.ru.info
>./doc/guix.ru.texi:946: warning: accent command `@,' must not be
>followed by whitespace
>./doc/guix.ru.texi:28289: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Build
>Systems)'
>make[2]: *** [Makefile:4239: doc/guix.ru.info] Error 1
>--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
>There’s an extra closing paren here.
>
>Julien, do you have ideas on how we could improve this workflow?
>Perhaps have an automated system that applies the latest PO files and
>sends a report to translators?
>
>Ludo’.

I don't know what it would look like