From: Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de>
To: Alejandro Sanchez <hiphish@openmailbox.org>
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to make GNU Guile more successful
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 01:23:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87shmssh9c.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9386102A-AA6C-4CC1-82EE-7758106A435C@openmailbox.org>
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Alejandro Sanchez <hiphish@openmailbox.org> writes:
> If I may add my two cents as a Scheme layman: the question is not so much about making Guile more popular, but about making Scheme itself more popular.
>
> One big reason for Python’s popularity is something I haven’t seen
> mentioned in this thread so far: if you know pseudocode you basically
> know Python already. Of course this is hyperbolic, there are a lot of
> finer details to Python, but the superficial simplicity of Python
> makes you think you already know the language and that you can get
> started right away. By the time you encounter the more arcane aspects
> of Python you have already invested enough time into it that you will
> put up with learning something new.
This is basically what wisp¹ is intended to address:
define : hello who
format #t "Hello ~a!\n" who
hello "World"
And it’s still full scheme. Just looking like pseudocode.
I documented that in py2guile: http://draketo.de/py2guile
¹: http://draketo.de/english/wisp
> I think someone here mentioned the lack of a proper Scheme IDE, other
> than Dr. Racket for Racket. I don’t use IDEs anymore, but I can see
> how that can be a problem for other people who only want to do
> intermediate scripting rather than write entire applications.
I also see lots of people at work using Python IDEs, which all bring
their own problems but provide the kind of information I get from the
commandline.
Just having a geiser setup for Emacs properly documented — or maybe an
Emacs customized for Scheme development — would help a lot, I think.
"This is our canonical interface for writing Scheme" ← That is what
people need to be able to find.
Best wishes,
Arne
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2017-03-04 23:41 How to make GNU Guile more successful Alejandro Sanchez
2017-03-05 0:23 ` Arne Babenhauserheide [this message]
2017-03-05 8:23 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-05 14:19 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05 3:09 ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05 11:57 ` Jan Wedekind
2017-03-07 3:29 ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05 14:27 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05 16:43 ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-05 23:46 ` Alejandro Sanchez
2017-03-06 9:00 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-06 1:31 ` Matt Wette
2017-03-07 4:07 ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05 9:40 ` David Kastrup
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2017-03-10 2:08 Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-10 9:55 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-10 10:03 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-10 14:27 ` vbuaraujo
2017-03-10 15:08 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-11 7:19 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-13 15:55 ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-13 16:14 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-10 20:17 ` Amirouche
2017-03-11 0:50 ` Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-11 3:02 ` Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-11 7:42 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-14 3:26 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-02-20 6:05 Michael Vehrs
2017-02-20 20:41 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-21 6:01 ` Michael Vehrs
2017-02-21 17:18 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-21 18:19 ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 18:31 ` Mike Gran
2017-02-21 18:33 ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 18:41 ` Mike Gran
2017-02-21 18:15 ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 19:25 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-01 19:25 ` Amirouche
2017-03-03 5:28 ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-03 9:18 ` David Kastrup
2017-03-03 11:30 ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-03 12:19 ` David Kastrup
2017-03-03 13:35 ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-04 23:44 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05 2:05 ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:01 ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:09 ` David Kastrup
2017-03-05 14:13 ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:27 ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-03 17:21 ` Matt Wette
2017-03-03 19:09 ` Amirouche
2017-03-03 19:16 ` Amirouche
2017-03-03 19:24 ` Mike Gran
2017-03-03 20:10 ` Matt Wette
2017-03-03 20:09 ` Matt Wette
2017-02-22 5:51 ` Michael Vehrs
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2017-02-18 15:29 ` sirgazil
2017-02-18 16:55 ` David Pirotte
2017-02-19 18:09 ` sirgazil
2017-02-20 1:00 ` David Pirotte
2017-02-12 23:56 Amirouche
2017-02-13 0:21 ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 11:06 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 12:14 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 20:20 ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 23:08 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 20:28 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-02-13 20:42 ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 22:34 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-13 23:56 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-14 0:18 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-14 22:21 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-15 17:03 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-02-16 19:18 ` sirgazil
2017-02-16 20:26 ` Amirouche
2017-02-14 5:59 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 19:36 ` Linas Vepstas
2017-02-14 20:54 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 22:20 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 22:54 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-14 9:54 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-02-14 21:35 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-01 19:21 ` Amirouche
2017-03-10 20:23 ` Amirouche
2017-07-14 21:54 ` Linas Vepstas
2017-07-14 21:59 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-15 10:10 ` Jan Wedekind
2017-07-15 12:55 ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-15 12:58 ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-15 22:17 ` Jan Wedekind
2017-07-16 9:54 ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-17 18:52 ` Arun Isaac
2017-07-18 11:22 ` Ernest Adrogué
2017-07-16 8:30 ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16 9:18 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-16 10:11 ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16 10:31 ` Marko Rauhamaa
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