From: Nala Ginrut <nalaginrut@gmail.com>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Guile User <guile-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: How to make GNU Guile more successful
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 19:30:26 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPjoZodkpoMw5gH0wZPcq40=q0yp5Fea1kOi_ROGUBTXKhTFbg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871sued8h7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 5:18 PM, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
> Frankly, I doubt that migration of large Python-based applications is
> going to be a thing when nobody can even be bothered with immersing
> himself in the problems with migrating LilyPond from Guile-1.8 to
> Guile-2.
No, I don't think so.
If we have guile-python3, the migration work becomes attractive to
Guile community. Because each time you migrate a library, it can be
used in all languages implemented on Guile platform. Write only once
for all supported languages. Even if we don't care about Python (do
we?), we have to write many libraries for Guile to make it more
useful. It's the work Guile community has to do anyway.
And LilyPond is not a good case here, since not everybody needs it. I
think the best way to push a community is to provide convenient way to
let users who care certain library to contribute it. But we don't have
it now. For example, the documentation or tools to help 1.8->2.0.
Python has tools for Python2->Python3 and documents for it. It is the
management of Guile community, not technical problem.
Fortunately, it's just management problem, and it's easier to improve
than technical one, only if we found a persistent way to push and
there's enough contributors.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-03 11:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-20 6:05 How to make GNU Guile more successful Michael Vehrs
2017-02-20 20:41 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-21 6:01 ` Michael Vehrs
2017-02-21 17:18 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-21 18:19 ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 18:31 ` Mike Gran
2017-02-21 18:33 ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 18:41 ` Mike Gran
2017-02-21 18:15 ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 19:25 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-01 19:25 ` Amirouche
2017-03-03 5:28 ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-03 9:18 ` David Kastrup
2017-03-03 11:30 ` Nala Ginrut [this message]
2017-03-03 12:19 ` David Kastrup
2017-03-03 13:35 ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-04 23:44 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05 2:05 ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:01 ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:09 ` David Kastrup
2017-03-05 14:13 ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:27 ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-06 20:41 ` Lilypond speed (was Re: How to make GNU Guile more successful) Andy Wingo
2017-03-08 23:17 ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-08 23:50 ` David Kastrup
2017-03-09 6:48 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-09 12:13 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-09 13:28 ` Paul
2017-03-10 16:18 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-10 18:53 ` Paul
2017-03-12 21:07 ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-12 21:42 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-12 23:20 ` Matt Wette
2017-03-13 12:52 ` Andy Wingo
2017-03-13 14:10 ` Controlling optimizations in 2.2 Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-13 21:26 ` Andy Wingo
2017-03-03 17:21 ` How to make GNU Guile more successful Matt Wette
2017-03-03 19:09 ` Amirouche
2017-03-03 19:16 ` Amirouche
2017-03-03 19:24 ` Mike Gran
2017-03-03 20:10 ` Matt Wette
2017-03-03 20:09 ` Matt Wette
2017-02-22 5:51 ` Michael Vehrs
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-03-10 2:08 Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-10 9:55 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-10 10:03 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-10 14:27 ` vbuaraujo
2017-03-10 15:08 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-11 7:19 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-13 15:55 ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-13 16:14 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-10 20:17 ` Amirouche
2017-03-11 0:50 ` Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-11 3:02 ` Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-11 7:42 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-14 3:26 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-03-04 23:41 Alejandro Sanchez
2017-03-05 0:23 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05 8:23 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-05 14:19 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05 3:09 ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05 11:57 ` Jan Wedekind
2017-03-07 3:29 ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05 14:27 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05 16:43 ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-05 23:46 ` Alejandro Sanchez
2017-03-06 9:00 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-06 1:31 ` Matt Wette
2017-03-07 4:07 ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05 9:40 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-18 1:04 sirgazil
[not found] ` <6315ebf51aec83aaff1c7fbbec685c0b@openmailbox.org>
2017-02-18 15:29 ` sirgazil
2017-02-18 16:55 ` David Pirotte
2017-02-19 18:09 ` sirgazil
2017-02-20 1:00 ` David Pirotte
2017-02-12 23:56 Amirouche
2017-02-13 0:21 ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 11:06 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 12:14 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 20:20 ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 23:08 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 20:28 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-02-13 20:42 ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 22:34 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-13 23:56 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-14 0:18 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-14 22:21 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-15 17:03 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-02-16 19:18 ` sirgazil
2017-02-16 20:26 ` Amirouche
2017-02-14 5:59 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 19:36 ` Linas Vepstas
2017-02-14 20:54 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 22:20 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 22:54 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-14 9:54 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-02-14 21:35 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-01 19:21 ` Amirouche
2017-03-10 20:23 ` Amirouche
2017-07-14 21:54 ` Linas Vepstas
2017-07-14 21:59 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-15 10:10 ` Jan Wedekind
2017-07-15 12:55 ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-15 12:58 ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-15 22:17 ` Jan Wedekind
2017-07-16 9:54 ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-17 18:52 ` Arun Isaac
2017-07-18 11:22 ` Ernest Adrogué
2017-07-16 8:30 ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16 9:18 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-16 10:11 ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16 10:31 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-16 10:39 ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16 10:45 ` Freja Nordsiek
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