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From: Panicz Maciej Godek <godek.maciek@gmail.com>
To: "Vítor De Araújo" <vbuaraujo@sapo.pt>
Cc: "guile-user@gnu.org" <guile-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: How to make GNU Guile more successful
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 16:08:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMFYt2Z+fz9nGQB+93cWnxMGUTYtzkGFEXyCpCfGtnTzz1_oLQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170310142735.Horde.LUkzcGBtiLQRiGdA2WIxdfF@mail.sapo.pt>

2017-03-10 15:27 GMT+01:00 <vbuaraujo@sapo.pt>:


> That's very cool :) And also supports my point that there should be
> something
> like a wiki for publishing information about Guile packages. It'd be hard
> for me to find this on my own.
>
> [...]
>>
>
> Yeah, for one I don't think the URLs should go directly into the code, but
> rather in a package metadata file. The reason is I don't think we should
> hard-code the package manager in the code. People should be able to use
> the code without having the package manager, if they already have the
> dependencies installed by some other means. But the basic idea is cool. :)
>

There is a reason why I like the idea of having URLs directly in the code,
namely that it makes you independent from some big institutions/particular
maintainers. Of course it is risky if your code refers to repositories that
you do not control, but you can always make your private forks.

Essentially the power of this idea is that it suddenly turns the whole web
into a Guile Incomprehensive Archive Network (clearly, a word beginning
with a letter T is missing to get a nice acronym).

Of course, it should be very easy to build a translation layer that
would map package names to addresses, but it requires a middleman
which always makes the costs higher (but perhaps having a proxy that
would make the necessary forks automatically would be a nice idea.
Plus if it would be able to check whether the changes between
some commits break compatibility then, well, that would really be
something. Which brings to mind the recent talk by Rich Hickey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyLBGkS5ICk )

I do agree that something wiki-like would be a lovely thing.


  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-10 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-10  2:08 How to make GNU Guile more successful Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-10  9:55 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-10 10:03   ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-10 14:27     ` vbuaraujo
2017-03-10 15:08       ` Panicz Maciej Godek [this message]
2017-03-11  7:19         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-13 15:55           ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-13 16:14             ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-10 20:17 ` Amirouche
2017-03-10 20:27   ` Yet another GNU Guile package manager (Fwd: Re: How to make GNU Guile more successful) Amirouche
2017-03-11  1:56     ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-11 16:49       ` Amirouche
2017-03-16  9:03         ` carl hansen
2017-03-16 12:07           ` Matt Wette
2017-03-16 21:15             ` Alex Kost
2017-03-11  0:50   ` How to make GNU Guile more successful Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-11  3:02     ` Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-11  7:42   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-14  3:26 ` Christopher Allan Webber
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-03-04 23:41 Alejandro Sanchez
2017-03-05  0:23 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05  8:23   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-05 14:19     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05  3:09 ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05 11:57   ` Jan Wedekind
2017-03-07  3:29     ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05 14:27   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05 16:43     ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-05 23:46       ` Alejandro Sanchez
2017-03-06  9:00         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-06  1:31       ` Matt Wette
2017-03-07  4:07     ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05  9:40 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-20  6:05 Michael Vehrs
2017-02-20 20:41 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-21  6:01   ` Michael Vehrs
2017-02-21 17:18     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-21 18:19       ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 18:31         ` Mike Gran
2017-02-21 18:33           ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 18:41             ` Mike Gran
2017-02-21 18:15     ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 19:25       ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-01 19:25         ` Amirouche
2017-03-03  5:28           ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-03  9:18             ` David Kastrup
2017-03-03 11:30               ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-03 12:19                 ` David Kastrup
2017-03-03 13:35                   ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-04 23:44               ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05  2:05                 ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:01                   ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:09                     ` David Kastrup
2017-03-05 14:13                       ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:27                     ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-03 17:21             ` Matt Wette
2017-03-03 19:09               ` Amirouche
2017-03-03 19:16               ` Amirouche
2017-03-03 19:24                 ` Mike Gran
2017-03-03 20:10                   ` Matt Wette
2017-03-03 20:09                 ` Matt Wette
2017-02-22  5:51     ` Michael Vehrs
2017-02-18  1:04 sirgazil
     [not found] ` <6315ebf51aec83aaff1c7fbbec685c0b@openmailbox.org>
2017-02-18 15:29   ` sirgazil
2017-02-18 16:55     ` David Pirotte
2017-02-19 18:09       ` sirgazil
2017-02-20  1:00         ` David Pirotte
2017-02-12 23:56 Amirouche
2017-02-13  0:21 ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 11:06 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 12:14   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 20:20   ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 23:08     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 20:28   ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-02-13 20:42     ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 22:34     ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-13 23:56       ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-14  0:18         ` David Kastrup
2017-02-14 22:21           ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-15 17:03           ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-02-16 19:18             ` sirgazil
2017-02-16 20:26               ` Amirouche
2017-02-14  5:59         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 19:36           ` Linas Vepstas
2017-02-14 20:54             ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 22:20           ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 22:54     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-14  9:54       ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-02-14 21:35         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-01 19:21           ` Amirouche
2017-03-10 20:23             ` Amirouche
2017-07-14 21:54     ` Linas Vepstas
2017-07-14 21:59       ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-15 10:10       ` Jan Wedekind
2017-07-15 12:55         ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-15 12:58           ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-15 22:17           ` Jan Wedekind
2017-07-16  9:54             ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-17 18:52         ` Arun Isaac
2017-07-18 11:22         ` Ernest Adrogué
2017-07-16  8:30       ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16  9:18         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-16 10:11           ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16 10:31             ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-16 10:39               ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16 10:45                 ` Freja Nordsiek

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