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From: Freja Nordsiek <fnordsie@gmail.com>
To: Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Cc: "guile-user@gnu.org" <guile-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: How to make GNU Guile more successful
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 10:39:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <680205F4-7E1B-4A3D-B82D-FE08B846323E@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878tjohdva.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net>

Not necessarily. Using bytevectors and SRFI-4 vectors works very well for some kinds of data. Just, they aren't the best for other kinds (in principle they can work with all data if one is one implements a heap or other custom memory management inside one). They can be made to work but are hard for some types of data, and if you are working with pointers inside them very easy to get a segfault (even python numpy, which has a lot of work done on it over many years, still has a fairly easy way to segfault it if one uses object dtype).


Freja Nordsiek

On July 16, 2017 12:31:37 PM GMT+02:00, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
>Freja Nordsiek <fnordsie@gmail.com>:
>
>> I checked the implementation of bytecectors and SRFI-4 in Guile and
>> they are definitely not scanned for pointers. But I would say hacking
>> them is not a good general solution for this problem. They are good
>> and natural data structures for large arrays of numerical data that
>> are standard signed/unsigned integers of various fixed sizes and IEEE
>> floating point numbers, or structures/unions of these types. Using
>> them for things other than that or strings/byte-arrays could be error
>> prone, messy, and performance poor.
>
>So no Scheme solution recommended then?
>
>
>Marko


  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-16 10:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-12 23:56 How to make GNU Guile more successful Amirouche
2017-02-13  0:21 ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 11:06 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 12:14   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 20:20   ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 23:08     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 20:28   ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-02-13 20:42     ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 22:34     ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-13 23:56       ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-14  0:18         ` David Kastrup
2017-02-14 22:21           ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-15 17:03           ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-02-16 19:18             ` sirgazil
2017-02-16 20:26               ` Amirouche
2017-02-14  5:59         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 19:36           ` Linas Vepstas
2017-02-14 20:54             ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 22:20           ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 22:54     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-14  9:54       ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-02-14 21:35         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-01 19:21           ` Amirouche
2017-03-10 20:23             ` Amirouche
2017-07-14 21:54     ` Linas Vepstas
2017-07-14 21:59       ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-15 10:10       ` Jan Wedekind
2017-07-15 12:55         ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-15 12:58           ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-15 22:17           ` Jan Wedekind
2017-07-16  9:54             ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-17 18:52         ` Arun Isaac
2017-07-18 11:22         ` Ernest Adrogué
2017-07-16  8:30       ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16  9:18         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-16 10:11           ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16 10:31             ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-16 10:39               ` Freja Nordsiek [this message]
2017-07-16 10:45                 ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-20 15:28       ` Guile bugs Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-20 16:22         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-20 18:26           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2017-07-20 18:35             ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-20 20:41               ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-20 22:23                 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-21  4:05                   ` Mark H Weaver
2017-07-21  6:15                     ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-21  8:16                       ` Chris Vine
2017-07-21  8:27                         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-21  9:17                       ` Mark H Weaver
2017-07-21 10:08                         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-21 10:22                           ` David Kastrup
2017-09-09 21:14                       ` Linas Vepstas
2017-09-09 22:31                         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-09-09 23:02                           ` Linas Vepstas
2017-07-21 16:33               ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2017-07-21 17:12                 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-21 14:19           ` Matt Wette
2017-09-09 20:30         ` Linas Vepstas
2017-09-10 13:11           ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-10 19:56             ` Linas Vepstas
2017-09-11  7:26               ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-11  8:10                 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-09-11 11:34                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-14 17:54                 ` Linas Vepstas
2017-09-15  7:56                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-19 11:04                     ` Linas Vepstas
2017-09-19 20:18                       ` Chris Vine
2017-09-19 20:21                         ` Chris Vine
2017-09-19 23:39                           ` Nala Ginrut
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-02-18  1:04 How to make GNU Guile more successful sirgazil
     [not found] ` <6315ebf51aec83aaff1c7fbbec685c0b@openmailbox.org>
2017-02-18 15:29   ` sirgazil
2017-02-18 16:55     ` David Pirotte
2017-02-19 18:09       ` sirgazil
2017-02-20  1:00         ` David Pirotte
2017-02-20  6:05 Michael Vehrs
2017-02-20 20:41 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-21  6:01   ` Michael Vehrs
2017-02-21 17:18     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-21 18:19       ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 18:31         ` Mike Gran
2017-02-21 18:33           ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 18:41             ` Mike Gran
2017-02-21 18:15     ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 19:25       ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-01 19:25         ` Amirouche
2017-03-03  5:28           ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-03  9:18             ` David Kastrup
2017-03-03 11:30               ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-03 12:19                 ` David Kastrup
2017-03-03 13:35                   ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-04 23:44               ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05  2:05                 ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:01                   ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:09                     ` David Kastrup
2017-03-05 14:13                       ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:27                     ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-03 17:21             ` Matt Wette
2017-03-03 19:09               ` Amirouche
2017-03-03 19:16               ` Amirouche
2017-03-03 19:24                 ` Mike Gran
2017-03-03 20:10                   ` Matt Wette
2017-03-03 20:09                 ` Matt Wette
2017-02-22  5:51     ` Michael Vehrs
2017-03-04 23:41 Alejandro Sanchez
2017-03-05  0:23 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05  8:23   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-05 14:19     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05  3:09 ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05 11:57   ` Jan Wedekind
2017-03-07  3:29     ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05 14:27   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05 16:43     ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-05 23:46       ` Alejandro Sanchez
2017-03-06  9:00         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-06  1:31       ` Matt Wette
2017-03-07  4:07     ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05  9:40 ` David Kastrup
2017-03-10  2:08 Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-10  9:55 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-10 10:03   ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-10 14:27     ` vbuaraujo
2017-03-10 15:08       ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-11  7:19         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-13 15:55           ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-13 16:14             ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-10 20:17 ` Amirouche
2017-03-11  0:50   ` Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-11  3:02     ` Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-11  7:42   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-14  3:26 ` Christopher Allan Webber

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