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From: Erik Edrosa <erik.edrosa@gmail.com>
To: Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de>
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to make GNU Guile more successful
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 23:07:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6c76ce66-be6a-4f5d-cfa5-3893d3fc8c13@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mvcz4x43.fsf@web.de>

On 03/05/2017 09:27 AM, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> 
> Erik Edrosa <erik.edrosa@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> I think one issue when you want to compare languages like Python to
>> Scheme is that these languages are dominated by a single
>> implementation.
> 
> I read this argument repeatedly, but it does not apply to C and C++, two
> of the most widely used languages. Therefore that argument might just
> interpret too much into a coincidence — or rather: into a situation
> which happens in the beginning of language development.
> 
> Even Java nowadays has several different implementations.
> 

C, C++, and Java have very large specifications and standards which are
meant to keep the various implementations as compatible as possible.
Although implementations do provide their own extensions and there is
issues between OSes. I agree this argument isn't too strong, but I see
it brought up once in awhile. One issue is it does fracture the
community a bit. If implementations have greater compatibility you see
developers use them in interesting ways. For example in Common Lisp,
I've heard some developers will use CCL in development because it
compiles faster and produces easier to debug code and use SBCL for
building releases because it produces faster code.


>> an awesome application to show off the
>> power of the language, good tooling, and some luck.
> 
> And zealots, never forget zealots. I’d dare to say that people, who
> believe that the language or tool is the best thing in existence and
> give lots of talks about it, are a far too easily underestimated factor
> in the success of any tool.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Arne
> 

I think we have many of those. ;)

- Erik



  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-07  4:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-04 23:41 How to make GNU Guile more successful Alejandro Sanchez
2017-03-05  0:23 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05  8:23   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-05 14:19     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05  3:09 ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05 11:57   ` Jan Wedekind
2017-03-07  3:29     ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05 14:27   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05 16:43     ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-05 23:46       ` Alejandro Sanchez
2017-03-06  9:00         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-06  1:31       ` Matt Wette
2017-03-07  4:07     ` Erik Edrosa [this message]
2017-03-05  9:40 ` David Kastrup
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-03-10  2:08 Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-10  9:55 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-10 10:03   ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-10 14:27     ` vbuaraujo
2017-03-10 15:08       ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-11  7:19         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-13 15:55           ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-13 16:14             ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-10 20:17 ` Amirouche
2017-03-11  0:50   ` Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-11  3:02     ` Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-11  7:42   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-14  3:26 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-02-20  6:05 Michael Vehrs
2017-02-20 20:41 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-21  6:01   ` Michael Vehrs
2017-02-21 17:18     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-21 18:19       ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 18:31         ` Mike Gran
2017-02-21 18:33           ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 18:41             ` Mike Gran
2017-02-21 18:15     ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 19:25       ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-01 19:25         ` Amirouche
2017-03-03  5:28           ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-03  9:18             ` David Kastrup
2017-03-03 11:30               ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-03 12:19                 ` David Kastrup
2017-03-03 13:35                   ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-04 23:44               ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05  2:05                 ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:01                   ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:09                     ` David Kastrup
2017-03-05 14:13                       ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:27                     ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-03 17:21             ` Matt Wette
2017-03-03 19:09               ` Amirouche
2017-03-03 19:16               ` Amirouche
2017-03-03 19:24                 ` Mike Gran
2017-03-03 20:10                   ` Matt Wette
2017-03-03 20:09                 ` Matt Wette
2017-02-22  5:51     ` Michael Vehrs
2017-02-18  1:04 sirgazil
     [not found] ` <6315ebf51aec83aaff1c7fbbec685c0b@openmailbox.org>
2017-02-18 15:29   ` sirgazil
2017-02-18 16:55     ` David Pirotte
2017-02-19 18:09       ` sirgazil
2017-02-20  1:00         ` David Pirotte
2017-02-12 23:56 Amirouche
2017-02-13  0:21 ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 11:06 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 12:14   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 20:20   ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 23:08     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 20:28   ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-02-13 20:42     ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 22:34     ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-13 23:56       ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-14  0:18         ` David Kastrup
2017-02-14 22:21           ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-15 17:03           ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-02-16 19:18             ` sirgazil
2017-02-16 20:26               ` Amirouche
2017-02-14  5:59         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 19:36           ` Linas Vepstas
2017-02-14 20:54             ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 22:20           ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 22:54     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-14  9:54       ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-02-14 21:35         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-01 19:21           ` Amirouche
2017-03-10 20:23             ` Amirouche
2017-07-14 21:54     ` Linas Vepstas
2017-07-14 21:59       ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-15 10:10       ` Jan Wedekind
2017-07-15 12:55         ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-15 12:58           ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-15 22:17           ` Jan Wedekind
2017-07-16  9:54             ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-17 18:52         ` Arun Isaac
2017-07-18 11:22         ` Ernest Adrogué
2017-07-16  8:30       ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16  9:18         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-16 10:11           ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16 10:31             ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-16 10:39               ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16 10:45                 ` Freja Nordsiek

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