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From: Amirouche <amirouche@hypermove.net>
To: guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to make GNU Guile more successful
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 01:21:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12f2d085-8e73-4ef7-26e3-645119d577f6@hypermove.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a15a7ea7-ccdf-44ad-9789-c40251548e68@hypermove.net>

Le 13/02/2017 à 00:56, Amirouche a écrit :

> WDYT?
> What block you from contributing to the wide ecosystem of GNU Guile?

I heared a lot around me about the projects I was doing before in my
previous life in as Pythonista. That I had NIH syndrom. Yeah, I rebuild
stuff that already exists hence according to the "haters" that was not
useful.

=> THIS IS A FALSE. Fully FUD! Two ways you can learn a programming
a) coding b) reading code. Basically in Guile, if there is no code to read
you only have the other option.

=> Remember they were dozen wikis before wikipedia with similar intents,
dozen search engines before Google with similar intents; You never reinvent
the wheel. You update it little by little, it might not be revolution.
Look at paintings for instance, it's seems some painters do not know proper
painting but they are still successful in their niche. Why? Because they tried.
My advice is to aim big or small whatever, but don't be shy to share.

I personnaly don't believe that code pollution exists. My theory is that
this concept was invented by techno oligarcs to limit the creativity of
those that can make. Basicly techno overlords supply the tools and you provide
the finished product that they are interested in. This is not in the interest
of creativity or liberty. Code what you want to code and think you need to code.
Don't be shy. Javascript fatigue is another name for code pollution.

Another thing i heard a lot is: It's impossible.

=> I was said that about Python->Javascript translator dozen of times. About
    my project to create a new web framework too. Basically Django is too
    mainstream. I don't want to be bigger than Django I want to have the
    *correct* solution. In many situations, for me, django was not up to the
    mark.

Another thing I hear a lot: nothing. Yeah. Nothing.

=> It take a lot of courage to do free and open source software. First,
    you might find it difficult to find people that have the same interest
    as you. Second they probably perfer to fork and do it from scratch by
    themself. Maybe they are shy and do it secretly aka. they don't want to
    disturb the matrix.

    You will also maybe meet people that hate open source or worst that hate
    GNU. Leave if possible.

That said I don't say HACK ALL DAY until something BAD happens. I say love
the code and the community share what you did.




  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-13  0:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-12 23:56 How to make GNU Guile more successful Amirouche
2017-02-13  0:21 ` Amirouche [this message]
2017-02-13 11:06 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 12:14   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 20:20   ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 23:08     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 20:28   ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-02-13 20:42     ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 22:34     ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-13 23:56       ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-14  0:18         ` David Kastrup
2017-02-14 22:21           ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-15 17:03           ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-02-16 19:18             ` sirgazil
2017-02-16 20:26               ` Amirouche
2017-02-14  5:59         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 19:36           ` Linas Vepstas
2017-02-14 20:54             ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 22:20           ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 22:54     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-14  9:54       ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-02-14 21:35         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-01 19:21           ` Amirouche
2017-03-10 20:23             ` Amirouche
2017-07-14 21:54     ` Linas Vepstas
2017-07-14 21:59       ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-15 10:10       ` Jan Wedekind
2017-07-15 12:55         ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-15 12:58           ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-15 22:17           ` Jan Wedekind
2017-07-16  9:54             ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-17 18:52         ` Arun Isaac
2017-07-18 11:22         ` Ernest Adrogué
2017-07-16  8:30       ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16  9:18         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-16 10:11           ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16 10:31             ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-16 10:39               ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16 10:45                 ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-20 15:28       ` Guile bugs Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-20 16:22         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-20 18:26           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2017-07-20 18:35             ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-20 20:41               ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-20 22:23                 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-21  4:05                   ` Mark H Weaver
2017-07-21  6:15                     ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-21  8:16                       ` Chris Vine
2017-07-21  8:27                         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-21  9:17                       ` Mark H Weaver
2017-07-21 10:08                         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-21 10:22                           ` David Kastrup
2017-09-09 21:14                       ` Linas Vepstas
2017-09-09 22:31                         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-09-09 23:02                           ` Linas Vepstas
2017-07-21 16:33               ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2017-07-21 17:12                 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-21 14:19           ` Matt Wette
2017-09-09 20:30         ` Linas Vepstas
2017-09-10 13:11           ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-10 19:56             ` Linas Vepstas
2017-09-11  7:26               ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-11  8:10                 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-09-11 11:34                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-14 17:54                 ` Linas Vepstas
2017-09-15  7:56                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-19 11:04                     ` Linas Vepstas
2017-09-19 20:18                       ` Chris Vine
2017-09-19 20:21                         ` Chris Vine
2017-09-19 23:39                           ` Nala Ginrut
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-02-18  1:04 How to make GNU Guile more successful sirgazil
     [not found] ` <6315ebf51aec83aaff1c7fbbec685c0b@openmailbox.org>
2017-02-18 15:29   ` sirgazil
2017-02-18 16:55     ` David Pirotte
2017-02-19 18:09       ` sirgazil
2017-02-20  1:00         ` David Pirotte
2017-02-20  6:05 Michael Vehrs
2017-02-20 20:41 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-21  6:01   ` Michael Vehrs
2017-02-21 17:18     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-21 18:19       ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 18:31         ` Mike Gran
2017-02-21 18:33           ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 18:41             ` Mike Gran
2017-02-21 18:15     ` Amirouche
2017-02-21 19:25       ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-01 19:25         ` Amirouche
2017-03-03  5:28           ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-03  9:18             ` David Kastrup
2017-03-03 11:30               ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-03 12:19                 ` David Kastrup
2017-03-03 13:35                   ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-04 23:44               ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05  2:05                 ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:01                   ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:09                     ` David Kastrup
2017-03-05 14:13                       ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-05 14:27                     ` Thomas Morley
2017-03-03 17:21             ` Matt Wette
2017-03-03 19:09               ` Amirouche
2017-03-03 19:16               ` Amirouche
2017-03-03 19:24                 ` Mike Gran
2017-03-03 20:10                   ` Matt Wette
2017-03-03 20:09                 ` Matt Wette
2017-02-22  5:51     ` Michael Vehrs
2017-03-04 23:41 Alejandro Sanchez
2017-03-05  0:23 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05  8:23   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-05 14:19     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05  3:09 ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05 11:57   ` Jan Wedekind
2017-03-07  3:29     ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05 14:27   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-05 16:43     ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-05 23:46       ` Alejandro Sanchez
2017-03-06  9:00         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-06  1:31       ` Matt Wette
2017-03-07  4:07     ` Erik Edrosa
2017-03-05  9:40 ` David Kastrup
2017-03-10  2:08 Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-10  9:55 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-10 10:03   ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-10 14:27     ` vbuaraujo
2017-03-10 15:08       ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-11  7:19         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-13 15:55           ` Nala Ginrut
2017-03-13 16:14             ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-03-10 20:17 ` Amirouche
2017-03-11  0:50   ` Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-11  3:02     ` Vítor De Araújo
2017-03-11  7:42   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-14  3:26 ` Christopher Allan Webber

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