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From: Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
To: Chris Vine <vine35792468@gmail.com>
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Guile bugs
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 11:27:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ziby6vpe.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170721091608.6585de97@bother.homenet> (Chris Vine's message of "Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:16:08 +0100")

Chris Vine <vine35792468@gmail.com>:

> On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:15:28 +0300
> Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
>> The closest I could find is:
>> 
>>    * Static data region(s). In the simplest case, this is the region
>>      between DATASTART and DATAEND, as defined in gcconfig.h. However,
>>      in most cases, this will also involve static data regions
>>      associated with dynamic libraries. These are identified by the
>>      mostly platform-specific code in dyn_load.c.
>> 
>> But that doesn't clearly state if mmapped regions are in or out. I
>> would have assumed they were in.
>
> Since the C runtime does not store static variables in mmapped memory,
> I would have assumed the opposite.

I use libgc in non-Guile code. If mmapped areas are not considered for
GC, I'll have to take special care.

I had assumed libgc simply introspects the process's memory map and
traverses anything reachable. After all, the process might be also using
a secondary memory allocator based on mmap. What if you do place
pointers in a mmapped region?

> There is also some information at https://www.gnu.org/softwa
> re/guile/manual/html_node/Garbage-Collection.html#Garbage-Collection
> That states that the areas that the garbage collector scans for live
> objects are the areas where global and other static variables are
> placed, local variables (including function arguments and registers),
> and heap memory allocated by scm_gc_malloc() (but not memory allocated
> by scm_gc_malloc_pointerless() or by malloc() and cognates).

Which doesn't say anything explicit about mmap.

Anyway, I suspect a bytearray is guaranteed to be pointerless and could
be used for the desired kind of mass storage in RAM. It all hinges on
the efficiency of encoding and decoding objects. As much as possible, I
would like to stay in Scheme-land.


Marko



  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-21  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-12 23:56 How to make GNU Guile more successful Amirouche
2017-02-13  0:21 ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 11:06 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 12:14   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 20:20   ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 23:08     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 20:28   ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-02-13 20:42     ` Amirouche
2017-02-13 22:34     ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-13 23:56       ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-14  0:18         ` David Kastrup
2017-02-14 22:21           ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-15 17:03           ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-02-16 19:18             ` sirgazil
2017-02-16 20:26               ` Amirouche
2017-02-14  5:59         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 19:36           ` Linas Vepstas
2017-02-14 20:54             ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 22:20           ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-13 22:54     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-02-14  9:54       ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2017-02-14 21:35         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-01 19:21           ` Amirouche
2017-03-10 20:23             ` Amirouche
2017-07-14 21:54     ` Linas Vepstas
2017-07-14 21:59       ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-15 10:10       ` Jan Wedekind
2017-07-15 12:55         ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-15 12:58           ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-15 22:17           ` Jan Wedekind
2017-07-16  9:54             ` Nala Ginrut
2017-07-17 18:52         ` Arun Isaac
2017-07-18 11:22         ` Ernest Adrogué
2017-07-16  8:30       ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16  9:18         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-16 10:11           ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16 10:31             ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-16 10:39               ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-16 10:45                 ` Freja Nordsiek
2017-07-20 15:28       ` Guile bugs Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-20 16:22         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-20 18:26           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2017-07-20 18:35             ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-20 20:41               ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-20 22:23                 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-21  4:05                   ` Mark H Weaver
2017-07-21  6:15                     ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-21  8:16                       ` Chris Vine
2017-07-21  8:27                         ` Marko Rauhamaa [this message]
2017-07-21  9:17                       ` Mark H Weaver
2017-07-21 10:08                         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-21 10:22                           ` David Kastrup
2017-09-09 21:14                       ` Linas Vepstas
2017-09-09 22:31                         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-09-09 23:02                           ` Linas Vepstas
2017-07-21 16:33               ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2017-07-21 17:12                 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-07-21 14:19           ` Matt Wette
2017-09-09 20:30         ` Linas Vepstas
2017-09-10 13:11           ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-10 19:56             ` Linas Vepstas
2017-09-11  7:26               ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-11  8:10                 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-09-11 11:34                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-14 17:54                 ` Linas Vepstas
2017-09-15  7:56                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-19 11:04                     ` Linas Vepstas
2017-09-19 20:18                       ` Chris Vine
2017-09-19 20:21                         ` Chris Vine
2017-09-19 23:39                           ` Nala Ginrut

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