From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann)
Cc: Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 16:12:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <vafvg5n40wm.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020903130247.GA6318@gnu.org> (Miles Bader's message of "Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:02:47 -0400")
Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:
> It sounds more confusing for the user to have two variables which are `the
> same but different' like that. I think we should be trying to make customize
> _more_ of a thin UI layer on top of existing mechanisms, not less.
On the one hand, it's a big task to convert all of the places where
variables are used.
On the one hand, it's easier to understand one variable than two.
On the other hand, if you have a list of items and loading a package
adds items to the list and Customize also adds items to the list, then
the time when the package is loaded influences the order of items on
the list, which might lead to subtle problems. This would be avoided
if the Customize stuff was always searched first (because it's in an
extra variable).
IMHO, there are merits and demerits to either approach. I'm sure it
is possible to argue for a long time which approach is the right
approach. But one approach must be chosen, and that must be
implemented. I think a "compromise" does not make sense in this
situation. Therefore I propose that a decision be made on what shall
be done, and then both camps can start to work on it, knowing that at
least the second-best solution has been chosen, and the horrible
alternative has been avoided :-)
kai
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Thread overview: 221+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-08-23 14:15 [CVS] f7, f8 bound D. Goel
2002-08-25 23:16 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-25 22:39 ` D. Goel
2002-08-26 15:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-27 2:02 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-27 8:56 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-27 8:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-27 8:55 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-08-27 10:32 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-27 10:01 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-08-27 11:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-27 11:07 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-08-27 16:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-28 1:12 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-28 9:33 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-28 8:54 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-28 9:09 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-08-28 10:58 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-28 10:21 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-08-28 9:09 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-28 10:47 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-28 14:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-29 14:35 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-29 17:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-08 23:02 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-09 10:49 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-09-09 13:43 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-09 19:14 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-09 23:34 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-10 21:50 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-09 23:45 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-10 16:36 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-10 12:17 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-09-10 23:16 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-11 9:03 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-08-28 13:37 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-08-28 14:28 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-08-28 14:41 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-08-28 23:33 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-29 9:25 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-08-30 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-30 14:48 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-30 23:55 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-31 11:21 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-01 13:14 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-01 14:22 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-01 14:37 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-02 17:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-02 17:54 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-02 23:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-03 10:55 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-03 13:02 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-03 13:53 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-03 15:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-03 17:31 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-03 19:27 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-09-03 22:56 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-03 23:53 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-04 11:59 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-04 22:35 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-03 23:23 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-04 10:31 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-04 15:30 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-04 22:25 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-05 13:00 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-05 10:00 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-05 14:59 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-05 16:18 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-09-05 19:13 ` D. Goel
2002-09-05 15:05 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-05 18:03 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-04 22:00 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-05 10:15 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-06 1:16 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-06 10:07 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-06 22:19 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-07 12:40 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-06 17:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-06 22:21 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-07 0:53 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-07 0:32 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-07 7:59 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 10:28 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-09 13:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-09 15:45 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 23:34 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-07 10:28 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-07 7:45 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 14:08 ` Customizing key bindings Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 23:43 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-09 8:05 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 9:19 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-09 12:20 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 14:09 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-09 15:23 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 17:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-09 14:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-09 23:34 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-09 23:33 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-10 10:29 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-11 1:40 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-10 17:57 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-11 3:05 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-11 8:52 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 0:21 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-09 1:52 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-09 23:33 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 2:47 ` [CVS] f7, f8 bound Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 9:39 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-04 14:23 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-03 14:12 ` Kai Großjohann [this message]
2002-09-03 15:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-03 15:17 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-02 14:53 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-02 16:40 ` Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-02 21:55 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-03 12:27 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-03 22:35 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-03 22:49 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-04 0:45 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-04 10:00 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-05 2:47 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 9:18 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-06 4:01 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-06 9:51 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-04 15:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-05 9:26 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-06 4:01 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-06 22:30 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-07 14:12 ` Customizing key bindings Alex Schroeder
2002-09-05 18:03 ` Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 18:35 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-06 15:10 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 2:46 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 16:17 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-06 4:01 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-07 13:50 ` Customizing key bindings Alex Schroeder
2002-09-05 16:47 ` Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Kai Großjohann
2002-09-07 14:20 ` use diff-list in Emacs Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 15:52 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-07 22:46 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-08 19:22 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-04 14:20 ` Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 17:20 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-06 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-06 22:03 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-07 12:01 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-07 12:40 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-07 13:07 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-07 14:17 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-07 17:48 ` What custom is and does Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 22:57 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-09 7:49 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-07 18:58 ` Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Kai Großjohann
2002-09-09 13:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-09 14:59 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 23:34 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-07 9:06 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 12:11 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-07 9:15 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 12:28 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-07 13:48 ` Customizing key bindings Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 13:56 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 13:39 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 15:10 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 22:06 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-09 22:12 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-09 22:49 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-09 22:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-10 10:19 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-08 12:54 ` Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Richard Stallman
2002-09-09 7:57 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 23:33 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-10 18:07 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-11 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-11 8:49 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-11 20:03 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-09 21:09 ` Alex Schroeder
[not found] ` <m2it1qqmae.fsf@primate.xs4all.nl>
2002-09-01 10:36 ` [CVS] f7, f8 bound Miles Bader
2002-09-01 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-01 13:45 ` Pavel Janík
2002-09-01 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-01 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-01 13:14 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-06 12:55 ` Francesco Potorti`
[not found] ` <m2r8geqole.fsf@primate.xs4all.nl>
2002-09-01 5:19 ` Damien Elmes
2002-09-02 0:01 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-03 0:04 ` David A. Cobb
2002-08-29 14:38 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-29 13:47 ` Francesco Potorti`
[not found] ` <m2wuq6qpai.fsf@primate.xs4all.nl>
2002-09-01 10:45 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-28 18:42 ` Edward O'Connor
2002-08-29 1:16 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-28 23:32 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-29 1:14 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-30 6:10 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-30 6:22 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-30 19:17 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-31 0:40 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-31 2:16 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-01 13:15 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-02 1:23 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-02 10:22 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-02 9:38 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-03 13:26 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-03 14:39 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-04 14:21 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-08 22:51 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-30 6:10 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-30 14:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-30 19:19 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-31 0:00 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-31 11:28 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-08-30 14:49 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-08-31 0:33 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-31 6:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-08-29 14:42 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-30 1:05 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-30 12:07 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-30 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-28 6:52 ` Richard Stallman
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