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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: encode-time vs decode-time
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 12:08:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvd0hs28bf.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m34l35vsj1.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 29 Jul 2019 16:12:34 +0200")

> I think the pair makes sense on the same level as
> {decode,encode}-coding-string does.  That is, encoded time is what Emacs
> uses internally for most things, and decoded time is pretty close to
> what you er find in nature.

I think the problem is one of presentation and vocabulary, indeed.

I think we should clarify:

- "time string", as returned by format-time-string and accepted
  by parse-time-string.

- "decoded time", i.e. a list of the form (SECOND MINUTE HOUR DAY MONTH YEAR IGNORED DST ZONE)
  I just pushed a patch which defines the `decoded-time` *type*, so we can
  refer to that precise name in docstrings.

- "time counted in seconds" for which we support several representations:
  a plain number, a list of integers (HIGH LOW USEC PSEC), a pair of
  integers (NUMERATOR . DENOMINATOR).

And part of the confusion for me is that `encode-time` not only encodes
time, but can also be used to convert between different representations
of "time counted in seconds" (in which case it's not the inverse of
decode-time).


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-29 16:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-29  9:48 Support for sub-second time in decoded time Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-29 14:12   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 14:43     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-29 15:00       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 17:50         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-30 11:33           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 16:08     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2019-07-30 10:32       ` encode-time vs decode-time Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-30 11:34         ` Andy Moreton
2019-07-30 11:37           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-30 17:54             ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-30 22:50               ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-31 19:03               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-31 19:31                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-08-06  1:48                 ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-06 14:21                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-06 15:59                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-06 18:23                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-07  1:02                         ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-07  2:41                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-08-07 14:47                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-11 23:39                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-17  6:47                             ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-07 11:33                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-17  7:54                             ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-17  8:16                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-17  9:33                                 ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-17 20:46                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-17 20:56                                 ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-17 21:42                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-08-17 22:53                                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-19 21:12                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-08-21 10:55                                         ` Adam Porter
2019-08-21 20:20                                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-26 10:59                                             ` Adam Porter
2019-08-26 21:35                                               ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-07 14:44                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-07 11:41                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-17  9:25                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-17 20:51                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 14:23 ` Support for sub-second time in decoded time Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-29 14:59   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 16:46 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-30 11:43   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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