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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Andy Moreton <andrewjmoreton@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: encode-time vs decode-time
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 13:51:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r25jms76.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47b9fb2f-3ae6-14d3-5f68-7dda13d92e5d@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Sat, 17 Aug 2019 02:25:48 -0700")

Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> writes:

> Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
>> I thought it would be good to introduce a new function, say
>> `get-current-time', that could have our new signature.  We'd then
>> deprecate `current-time'
>
> It's not just current-time; it's also encode-time, file-attributes,
> directory-files-and-attributes, visited-file-modtime,
> current-idle-time, process-attributes, get-internal-run-time,
> make-frame-visible, time-add, time-subtract, and no doubt other
> primitives written in C that make Lisp timestamps visible to user
> code, along with the many functions written in Lisp (e.g.,
> time-since) that call these primitives and give Lisp timestamps to
> users.

Yeah, that's true, so introducing a new function here wouldn't help.

But I think that having these functions return something that doesn't
have the second spec in car/cadr is going to break a lot of people's
out-of-tree code.  So my feeling is that your plan isn't feasible, and
we'll have to live with these functions returning encoded time on the
current form forever.

Which I think is OK, although your new format is more elegant.

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-17 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-29  9:48 Support for sub-second time in decoded time Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-29 14:12   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 14:43     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-29 15:00       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 17:50         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-30 11:33           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 16:08     ` encode-time vs decode-time Stefan Monnier
2019-07-30 10:32       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-30 11:34         ` Andy Moreton
2019-07-30 11:37           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-30 17:54             ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-30 22:50               ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-31 19:03               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-31 19:31                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-08-06  1:48                 ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-06 14:21                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-06 15:59                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-06 18:23                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-07  1:02                         ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-07  2:41                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-08-07 14:47                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-11 23:39                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-17  6:47                             ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-07 11:33                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-17  7:54                             ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-17  8:16                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-17  9:33                                 ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-17 20:46                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-17 20:56                                 ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-17 21:42                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-08-17 22:53                                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-19 21:12                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-08-21 10:55                                         ` Adam Porter
2019-08-21 20:20                                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-26 10:59                                             ` Adam Porter
2019-08-26 21:35                                               ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-07 14:44                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-07 11:41                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-17  9:25                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-17 20:51                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2019-07-29 14:23 ` Support for sub-second time in decoded time Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-29 14:59   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 16:46 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-30 11:43   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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