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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Andy Moreton <andrewjmoreton@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: encode-time vs decode-time
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2019 13:41:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o9119p8i.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cf47bf4b-31cf-69f3-0e65-38f1b0ee168a@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Mon, 5 Aug 2019 18:48:21 -0700")

Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> writes:

> OK, after some cogitation I installed something along those lines into
> master. I called the new function 'time-convert' by analogy with the
> existing functions time-add etc. So now, as you suggested, encode-time
> has reverted to its old role of converting from decoded timestamps to
> Lisp timestamps and its API is now simpler.

Great!  Thanks for doing this and adding the sub-second time to the
decoded time structure -- I'll be implementing the remaining bits of the
ISO 8601 standard in `iso8601-parse' (the ones that deal with fractional
seconds) so that we'll have a completely compliant parser.

> I didn't follow Stefan's suggestion of adding another function that
> acts like current-time except it returns the (TICKS . HZ) format,
> because current-time is already planned do exactly that after the next
> release (when we will default CURRENT_TIME_LIST to false) and it'll be
> simpler if we have one function rather than two that do the same
> thing.

However, I think this sounds overly ambitious.  I think it's likely that
there's tons of out-of-tree code that assumes that `current-time' always
returns a list of time values, because it's been that way since
basically forever.  It's been extended, but the first two elements have
always been a representation of seconds.

This is why I thought it would be good to introduce a new function, say
`get-current-time', that could have our new signature.  We'd then
deprecate `current-time' (but probably never actually remove it since
there's so much code out there in the wild that uses it) and rewrite all
calls in-tree to use this new function.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no



  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-07 11:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-29  9:48 Support for sub-second time in decoded time Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-29 14:12   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 14:43     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-29 15:00       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 17:50         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-30 11:33           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 16:08     ` encode-time vs decode-time Stefan Monnier
2019-07-30 10:32       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-30 11:34         ` Andy Moreton
2019-07-30 11:37           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-30 17:54             ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-30 22:50               ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-31 19:03               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-31 19:31                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-08-06  1:48                 ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-06 14:21                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-06 15:59                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-06 18:23                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-07  1:02                         ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-07  2:41                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-08-07 14:47                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-11 23:39                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-17  6:47                             ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-07 11:33                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-17  7:54                             ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-17  8:16                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-17  9:33                                 ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-17 20:46                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-17 20:56                                 ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-17 21:42                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-08-17 22:53                                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-19 21:12                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-08-21 10:55                                         ` Adam Porter
2019-08-21 20:20                                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-26 10:59                                             ` Adam Porter
2019-08-26 21:35                                               ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-07 14:44                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-07 11:41                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2019-08-17  9:25                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-17 20:51                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 14:23 ` Support for sub-second time in decoded time Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-29 14:59   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 16:46 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-30 11:43   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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