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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Rob Browning <rlb@defaultvalue.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	 david@tethera.net,  emacs-devel@gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org
Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term)
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 13:25:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv5yh2gn7m.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87edvqno40.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> (Rob Browning's message of "Sun, 02 Oct 2022 12:15:27 -0500")

> On this particular topic, I was actually just communicating a concern
> that was communicated to me -- that a user wasn't happy about the
> unpredictable, compilation spike long after the install on their laptop,
> (in part due to concerns about power consumption).

FWIW, regardless of what Debian decides to do, I think it would make
sense to offer some way to configure Emacs so that it native compiles
packages a bit more eagerly.

E.g. we could offer a configuration option that causes `package-install`
to eagerly native compile the installed files.  And we could offer
a "recompile" command that users can use after upgrading Emacs to
eagerly native-(re)compile all the ELPA-installed packages in the
user's $HOME.

The situation is very different for the bundled packages, since most of
them will never be used by most users, so JIT compilation is much
more beneficial.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-02 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 349+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-30 13:13 Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) David Bremner
2022-09-30 13:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 14:33   ` David Bremner
2022-09-30 15:47     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 14:55   ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-30 16:02     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 15:32   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-09-30 16:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01 16:38       ` Rob Browning
2022-10-01 16:52         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01 20:42           ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02  5:57             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02  6:10               ` tomas
2022-10-02  6:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 15:54                   ` tomas
2022-10-02 16:02                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 16:13                       ` chad
2022-10-02 16:55                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 17:13                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 17:24                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 17:25                       ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 16:53               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 17:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:12                   ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:40                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:51                       ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 17:17                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-02 17:28                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 17:36                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-02 17:38                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:17                       ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 19:08                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-02 19:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03  9:12                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-03 11:32                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-03 13:07                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 13:29                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-03 13:42                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 14:09                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-03 14:42                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 14:45                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-03 14:52                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 15:14                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 12:55                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 13:14                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 13:47                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 13:55                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 14:08                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-03 15:18                                               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-03 17:21                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 17:39                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-03 17:52                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 13:05                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 13:09                                           ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 12:51                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-03 17:16                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 18:21                                   ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-03 20:43                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 17:44                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 13:18                               ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 14:01                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 14:17                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 14:27                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 16:42                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 17:08                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 17:15                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06  0:41                                             ` Po Lu
2022-10-06  0:40                                           ` Po Lu
2022-10-06  6:26                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 14:25                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 14:29                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 14:48                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 14:58                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 15:12                                           ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 15:24                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 15:36                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 16:10                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 16:13                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 17:58                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 18:28                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 23:25                                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 23:33                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06  0:45                                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-06  0:55                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06  6:33                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-05  1:09                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-11-05  6:44                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-05 10:12                                                     ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-11-05 11:19                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 11:06                                                       ` Max Brieiev
2022-11-06 16:31                                                         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-11-06 18:00                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-07  9:22                                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2022-11-08  5:51                                                           ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-08 11:23                                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2022-11-08 11:43                                                               ` Parallel native compilation Björn Bidar
2022-11-08 12:35                                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-11-08 12:13                                                             ` Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-05 11:53                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-11-05 12:44                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-05 13:12                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-11-05 13:35                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-05 14:09                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-10-05 16:04                                               ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 16:12                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 16:28                                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 16:43                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06  0:44                                         ` Po Lu
2022-10-06  0:56                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06  6:41                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06  6:28                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-14 17:53                                             ` Rob Browning
2022-10-14 18:36                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-14 19:06                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-14 21:17                                                 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-15  3:07                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-15 16:34                                                     ` Rob Browning
2022-10-15 23:16                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-15  6:30                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 17:00                                                     ` Rob Browning
2022-10-15  9:32                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-15 16:48                                                 ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-16  8:56                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-15 17:21                                                 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-15 17:25                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16  9:01                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-16 16:59                                                     ` Rob Browning
2022-10-17 10:37                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 20:37                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 23:40                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 23:46                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06  0:34                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-06  0:39                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06  1:03                                           ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-06  1:07                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06  1:19                                               ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-06  1:26                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06  1:39                                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-06 12:07                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06  4:32                                         ` Repeatable testing [was: Suppressing native compilation...] tomas
2022-10-06  5:04                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-06  6:52                                           ` Repeatable testing Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 20:05                           ` Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Rob Browning
2022-10-02 20:10                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 13:19                               ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 12:43                           ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 13:16                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 13:29                               ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 14:03                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 17:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 17:38                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-02 17:48                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 17:37                 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 17:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:21                     ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:43                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 23:53                 ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-02 17:15               ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 17:25                 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2022-10-02 18:11                   ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-02 18:26                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 18:57                       ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-02 17:26                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 23:51               ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-03 16:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 18:23                   ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-03 18:44                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04  0:31                 ` Po Lu
2022-10-04  6:57                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04  8:37                     ` Po Lu
2022-10-04  9:25                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04  9:51                         ` Po Lu
2022-10-05 13:58                           ` Po Lu
2022-10-05 15:02                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 16:47                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 17:59                                 ` tomas
2022-10-05 18:28                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 18:56                                     ` tomas
2022-10-05 19:04                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 19:40                                         ` tomas
2022-10-05 19:29                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-10-05 19:38                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 20:04                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2022-10-06  5:28                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06  6:35                                             ` tomas
2022-10-05 16:43                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06  0:34                               ` Po Lu
2022-10-06  6:21                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06  7:11                                   ` Po Lu
2022-10-06  8:03                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06  9:02                                       ` tomas
2022-10-06 10:13                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 11:49                                           ` tomas
2022-10-07 12:40                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06  9:52                                       ` Po Lu
2022-10-06 10:17                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 10:41                                           ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-06 10:54                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04 23:26                   ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-02  5:58   ` tomas
2022-10-02  6:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 15:53       ` tomas
2022-10-02 16:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 16:23           ` chad
2022-10-02 16:59             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:35               ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:54                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 19:37                   ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 17:57             ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:06               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-02 18:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:41                   ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 19:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 19:50                       ` Rob Browning
2022-10-03 17:41                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 18:17                           ` tomas
2022-10-03 18:41                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 19:02                               ` tomas
2022-10-03 19:04                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 18:45                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 18:52                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04  0:16                           ` Rob Browning
2022-10-04  9:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05  0:48                               ` Rob Browning
2022-10-05  7:39                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 17:47                                 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2022-10-15 17:39                                   ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:25               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 18:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:37                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-02 18:46                   ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:57                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 19:01                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-02 19:03                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 19:58                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 20:09                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 16:27           ` tomas
2022-10-02 17:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:37               ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:58                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 19:58                   ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 20:51               ` tomas
2022-10-02 23:58           ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-03 16:24             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 18:23               ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-03 18:46                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:32       ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:51         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 19:57           ` Rob Browning
2022-10-03 15:48             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 16:39               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 17:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 18:33                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 18:49                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 21:58                       ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-04  6:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04 13:30                         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-09-30 15:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-09-30 17:05   ` David Bremner
2022-09-30 17:32     ` David Bremner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-10-23 18:43 Gregor Zattler
2022-10-23 15:22 Gregor Zattler
2022-10-23 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-23 17:08   ` Gregor Zattler
2022-10-23 17:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-23 17:33     ` Gregor Zattler
2022-10-23 17:34       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-23 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-23 18:55   ` Gregor Zattler
2022-10-24 18:35     ` Gregor Zattler
2022-10-24 19:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-28  1:04 Rob Browning
2022-09-28 11:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-28 11:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 20:22   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-13  5:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-13 19:20       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-13 20:10         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-13 20:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-13 20:57             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-13 21:29               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-14 22:37                 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15  3:09                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-15 15:06                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 16:16                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-15  9:24                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-15 15:02                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-16  8:52                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-16  9:29                         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-16 13:45                         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-16 13:47                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-19 19:39                       ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-14  6:08               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-14 23:20                 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15  3:14                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-15  6:40                     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-15  7:14                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 14:00                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-15 14:10                         ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-10-15 14:29                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16 11:55                             ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-10-17  7:34                               ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-18 22:26                                 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-10-19 19:33                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 15:10                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 16:17                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-17  7:20                         ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15  7:04                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 15:19                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 16:26                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 17:19                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-17  7:21                           ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-18  8:52                             ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-18 11:27                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-18 13:56                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-18 18:12                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-18 13:55                               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-15  9:25                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-15 15:20                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 14:18                   ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-10-15 17:06           ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-15 17:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 17:36               ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-13 20:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-14 19:46           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-15  8:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 15:53               ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15  9:33             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-15 14:35               ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-15 15:56               ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 16:24                 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-17  7:23                   ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-17 16:59                     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-17 17:07                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16  8:55                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-16  9:27                   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-16  9:35                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-17  7:30                       ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-17 11:20                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-28 12:52 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-09-28 17:04   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-28 18:49     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-09-28 19:10       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-28 21:32         ` Andrea Corallo
2022-09-29  5:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29  8:18             ` Andrea Corallo
2022-09-29  9:01               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29 14:32                 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-09-29 15:50                   ` Eli Zaretskii

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