From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org, rlb@defaultvalue.org
Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2022 07:55:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v8p4kj3n.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8335c9dkyf.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 30 Sep 2022 16:56:56 +0300")
Hello,
On Fri 30 Sep 2022 at 04:56PM +03, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> This is what I'm asking about: what exactly triggers the compilation?
> Just installing a package shouldn't do that, only loading it into
> Emacs should.
We currently bytecompile during package installation, and would like
also to do the native compilation at that time.
The main reason for bytecompiling at package installation is that we
have logic to purge and recompile anything whose dependency versions
have changed, which means that all bytecode installed on Debian systems
was generated using known-correct macro definitions. Historically
ordinary Emacs processes running in non-batch mode have not guaranteed
this; I recall that the Org-mode developers discouraged use of ELPA to
install newer versions of Org because of these sorts of issues.
A secondary reason is that it makes sense to compile once, system-wide,
rather than repeatedly in each user's home directory. It is also nice
that you can know everything is already in place once your package is
installed, so that I can unplug my laptop once the package manager has
exited, and I know that it isn't going to do any CPU-intensive
compilation and drain my battery.
--
Sean Whitton
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-30 14:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 349+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-30 13:13 Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) David Bremner
2022-09-30 13:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 14:33 ` David Bremner
2022-09-30 15:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 14:55 ` Sean Whitton [this message]
2022-09-30 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 15:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-09-30 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01 16:38 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-01 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01 20:42 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 5:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 6:10 ` tomas
2022-10-02 6:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 15:54 ` tomas
2022-10-02 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 16:13 ` chad
2022-10-02 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 17:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 17:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 17:25 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 16:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 17:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:12 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:51 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 17:17 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-02 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 17:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-02 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:17 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 19:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-02 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 9:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-03 11:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-03 13:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 13:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-03 13:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 14:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-03 14:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 14:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-03 14:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 15:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 12:55 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 13:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 13:47 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 13:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 14:08 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-03 15:18 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-03 17:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 17:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-03 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 13:05 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 13:09 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 12:51 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-03 17:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 18:21 ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-03 20:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 13:18 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 14:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 14:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 17:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 0:41 ` Po Lu
2022-10-06 0:40 ` Po Lu
2022-10-06 6:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 14:25 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 14:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 14:48 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 14:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 15:12 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 15:24 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 15:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 16:10 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 16:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 17:58 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 18:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 23:25 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 23:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06 0:45 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-06 0:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06 6:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-05 1:09 ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-11-05 6:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-05 10:12 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-11-05 11:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 11:06 ` Max Brieiev
2022-11-06 16:31 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-11-06 18:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-07 9:22 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-11-08 5:51 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-08 11:23 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-11-08 11:43 ` Parallel native compilation Björn Bidar
2022-11-08 12:35 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-11-08 12:13 ` Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-05 11:53 ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-11-05 12:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-05 13:12 ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-11-05 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-05 14:09 ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-10-05 16:04 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 16:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 16:28 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 16:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 0:44 ` Po Lu
2022-10-06 0:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06 6:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 6:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-14 17:53 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-14 18:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-14 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-14 21:17 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-15 3:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-15 16:34 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-15 23:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-15 6:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 17:00 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-15 9:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-15 16:48 ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-16 8:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-15 17:21 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-15 17:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16 9:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-16 16:59 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-17 10:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 20:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 23:40 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 23:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06 0:34 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-06 0:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06 1:03 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-06 1:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06 1:19 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-06 1:26 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06 1:39 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-06 12:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06 4:32 ` Repeatable testing [was: Suppressing native compilation...] tomas
2022-10-06 5:04 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-06 6:52 ` Repeatable testing Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 20:05 ` Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Rob Browning
2022-10-02 20:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 13:19 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 12:43 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 13:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 13:29 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-05 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 17:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-02 17:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 17:37 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:21 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 23:53 ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-02 17:15 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 17:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 18:11 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-02 18:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 18:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-02 17:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 23:51 ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-03 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 18:23 ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-03 18:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04 0:31 ` Po Lu
2022-10-04 6:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04 8:37 ` Po Lu
2022-10-04 9:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04 9:51 ` Po Lu
2022-10-05 13:58 ` Po Lu
2022-10-05 15:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-05 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 17:59 ` tomas
2022-10-05 18:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 18:56 ` tomas
2022-10-05 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 19:40 ` tomas
2022-10-05 19:29 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-10-05 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 20:04 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-10-06 5:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 6:35 ` tomas
2022-10-05 16:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 0:34 ` Po Lu
2022-10-06 6:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 7:11 ` Po Lu
2022-10-06 8:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 9:02 ` tomas
2022-10-06 10:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 11:49 ` tomas
2022-10-07 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 9:52 ` Po Lu
2022-10-06 10:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 10:41 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-06 10:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04 23:26 ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-02 5:58 ` tomas
2022-10-02 6:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 15:53 ` tomas
2022-10-02 16:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 16:23 ` chad
2022-10-02 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:35 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 19:37 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 17:57 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-02 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:41 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 19:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 19:50 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-03 17:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 18:17 ` tomas
2022-10-03 18:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 19:02 ` tomas
2022-10-03 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 18:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04 0:16 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-04 9:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 0:48 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-05 7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 17:47 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2022-10-15 17:39 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-02 18:46 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 19:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-02 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 19:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 20:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 16:27 ` tomas
2022-10-02 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:37 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 19:58 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 20:51 ` tomas
2022-10-02 23:58 ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-03 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 18:23 ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-03 18:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 18:32 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-02 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 19:57 ` Rob Browning
2022-10-03 15:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 18:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 21:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-04 6:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04 13:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-09-30 15:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-09-30 17:05 ` David Bremner
2022-09-30 17:32 ` David Bremner
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-10-23 18:43 Gregor Zattler
2022-10-23 15:22 Gregor Zattler
2022-10-23 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-23 17:08 ` Gregor Zattler
2022-10-23 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-23 17:33 ` Gregor Zattler
2022-10-23 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-23 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-23 18:55 ` Gregor Zattler
2022-10-24 18:35 ` Gregor Zattler
2022-10-24 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-28 1:04 Rob Browning
2022-09-28 11:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-28 11:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 20:22 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-13 5:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-13 19:20 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-13 20:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-13 20:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-13 20:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-13 21:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-14 22:37 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 3:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-15 15:06 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 16:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-15 9:24 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-15 15:02 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-16 8:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-16 9:29 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-16 13:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-16 13:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-19 19:39 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-14 6:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-14 23:20 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 3:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-15 6:40 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-15 7:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-15 14:10 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-10-15 14:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16 11:55 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-10-17 7:34 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-18 22:26 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-10-19 19:33 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 15:10 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 16:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-17 7:20 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 15:19 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 17:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-17 7:21 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-18 8:52 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-18 11:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-18 13:56 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-18 18:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-18 13:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-15 9:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-15 15:20 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 14:18 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-10-15 17:06 ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-15 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 17:36 ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-13 20:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-14 19:46 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-15 8:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 15:53 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 9:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-15 14:35 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-15 15:56 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-15 16:24 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-17 7:23 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-17 16:59 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-17 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16 8:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-16 9:27 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-16 9:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-17 7:30 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-17 11:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-28 12:52 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-09-28 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-28 18:49 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-09-28 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-28 21:32 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-09-29 5:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29 8:18 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-09-29 9:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29 14:32 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-09-29 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
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