From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>,
"Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>
Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : Re: Suggested experimental test
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:56:57 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <SA2PR10MB4474730BA140D7E2E77283C6F3659@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <271290d7aa8a72cee4a3@heytings.org>
> Obviously, I'm not proposing this just to leave the that key unused.
Oh, but I wish that _were_ the proposal... Unused AND
with an intention not to bind it by default at all.
If we can remove preloading of facemenu or whatever
then why can't we remove this or that default binding?
Post the change in NEWS, with the code to reenable
it for anyone who needs it: (global-set-key ...).
I'm in favor of freeing up `C-o' for preferential
use by 3rd-party code (e.g. as a prefix key or a
repeating command or ...).
I sympathize with anyone who has a longstanding habit
of using some key that's been bound by default. But
nothing is easier for a user than binding such a key.
Voila. You asked for opinions. Apologies to all
who objected to the proposed change for other/opposite
reasons.
My objection is not to removal of the existing binding;
it's to binding `C-o' in some other default way.
Just unbind it and declare Emacs's intention, at least
for the foreseeable future, to not bind it by default.
Give it up to 3rd-party code, unless/until Emacs really
gets a screaming/important need to bind it by default.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-03-22 19:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-20 9:03 Suggested experimental test Gregory Heytings
2021-03-20 11:14 ` Jean Louis
2021-03-20 11:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-20 11:34 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-20 12:37 ` Proposal to remove C-o binding [was: Suggested experimental test] Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-21 6:53 ` Suggested experimental test Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-21 8:35 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-21 13:20 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-21 18:16 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-21 22:16 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-21 22:54 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-21 23:05 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-21 23:13 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-21 23:46 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-22 0:40 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-22 10:05 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-22 18:14 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-22 19:06 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-22 19:56 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2021-03-22 21:03 ` [External] : " Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-22 21:26 ` Drew Adams
2021-03-23 8:06 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-22 21:08 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-22 11:21 ` Jean Louis
2021-03-22 11:07 ` Jean Louis
2021-03-22 3:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-22 10:05 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-22 11:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-03-22 12:20 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-22 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-22 17:48 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-22 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-22 18:15 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-22 18:14 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-22 8:59 ` Rudolf Schlatte
2021-03-22 10:05 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-22 10:49 ` Jean Louis
2021-03-21 10:48 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-21 10:58 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-03-21 13:20 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-21 18:16 ` Sv: " Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-22 5:11 ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-22 10:24 ` Sv: " Jean Louis
2021-03-22 10:14 ` Jean Louis
2021-03-22 12:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-22 12:23 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-22 16:15 ` Jean Louis
2021-03-22 16:14 ` Jean Louis
2021-03-22 17:08 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-22 17:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-22 17:59 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-22 18:23 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-23 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-22 18:03 ` Jean Louis
2021-03-22 17:20 ` Robin Tarsiger
2021-03-22 17:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-22 17:55 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-22 18:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-22 20:22 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-23 8:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-23 14:15 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-23 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-23 16:51 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-23 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-23 18:08 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-23 21:06 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-23 21:43 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-23 21:57 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-23 22:08 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-23 22:14 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-23 22:42 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-23 23:05 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-24 5:15 ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-24 5:16 ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-24 6:39 ` Jean Louis
2021-03-24 6:32 ` Jean Louis
2021-03-24 6:10 ` Jean Louis
2021-03-22 18:17 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-22 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-22 19:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-22 19:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-22 22:02 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-22 22:33 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-03-22 23:28 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-22 22:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-22 23:22 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-23 5:22 ` Jean Louis
2021-03-23 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-23 12:28 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-03-23 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-23 13:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-23 13:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-03-23 14:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-23 13:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-23 17:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-23 21:06 ` chad
2021-03-24 5:07 ` Jean Louis
2021-03-25 5:09 ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-23 6:12 ` Yuri Khan
2021-03-24 23:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-25 6:12 ` Yuri Khan
2021-03-25 13:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-25 14:30 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-25 17:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-25 18:59 ` Yuri Khan
2021-03-25 19:30 ` Yuri Khan
2021-03-25 21:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-25 23:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-26 10:34 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-26 23:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-26 23:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-27 0:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-28 13:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-22 20:22 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-22 20:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-22 21:03 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-22 20:56 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2021-03-22 18:11 ` [EXTERNAL] " Stephan Mueller
2021-03-22 18:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-22 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-22 19:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-22 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-22 19:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-22 19:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 19:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-22 20:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 21:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-23 7:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-22 19:21 ` chad
2021-03-22 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-22 19:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 20:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-22 20:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-22 20:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-23 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-22 20:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 21:02 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-03-23 7:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-22 19:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-22 19:56 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-03-22 20:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 21:19 ` Drew Adams
2021-03-22 20:22 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-23 8:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-23 14:15 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-23 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-23 17:21 ` Bob Rogers
2021-03-24 5:42 ` Jean Louis
2021-03-23 20:55 ` chad
2021-03-25 17:04 ` [EXTERNAL] " Stephan Mueller
2021-03-22 19:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 19:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-22 20:33 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2021-03-22 18:42 ` Sean Whitton
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-03-23 21:51 Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-24 8:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-24 8:51 ` tomas
2021-03-24 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-24 11:13 ` tomas
2021-03-24 11:51 ` Jean Louis
2021-03-24 15:22 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
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