From: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
To: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:33:04 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mwtismo7.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871ubhn9k7.fsf@kwarm.red-bean.com> (Karl Fogel's message of "Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:03:04 -0500")
Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com> writes:
> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:
>>> - Accept no further changes from him.
>>> - Don't let him post on the dev mailing lists any more, period.
>>
>>I may have a stinking personality. But the code I write has a secular
>>nature. The code doesn't take the smell of the hand it types.
>
> As W. Greenhouse also pointed out, the issue is not your code itself
> (the quality of which is not in question) but the fact that people can't
> count on your future code being usable in Emacs. People can't count on
> *their* investment in your code having the anticipated payoff, for them.
> That makes your future contributions unsafe; ergo, Emacs should not
> accept them.
>
> I made this point pretty clearly in my orginal post, but make it again
> here only in case anyone watching was thrown by your confusion of two
> separate issues.
I have nothing against you having an opinion on what should be done and
nor do I shy of receiving adverse criticism on a public mailing list.
Also the following article [1],
http://lwn.net/Articles/543339/#Comments
keeps reminding me that I am the one who has breached the trust. I
don't think I have breached anyone's trust.
I ported the ox-html.el and ox-odt.el exporters when no one else -
including Bastien or Carsten - were available to invest substantial time
to port the work. Remember this was done with the sole intention of
off-loading some of the work of Nicolas Goaziou. Remember the porting
was done when Ngz work was in alpha or late-alpha stage.
(You seem to respond donning the hat of a community manager.)
Bastien has been consistently rubbing me on the wrong side for a *very
long* time. Do you think Bastien resorting to rewriting of history
[2][3] is a proper etiquette? There is a limit to how absurd a person
can behave. What is wrong, if I request that my work be reverted, given
the circumstances?
By continuing to work on Org-mode, I am supporting Bastien which I don't
intend to. I don't approve of what he is doing (in his role as a
maintainer) nor do I think that the generaly public should be coaxed in
to responding favorably to Bastien's call for donations (particularly
for impending Org-8.0 release.)
[1] I have not received my $1 or any GNU stickers
[2] http://orgmode.org/w/?p=org-mode.git;a=commitdiff;h=b7c776418868966b980a0b1be89bf7bfabde7685
[3] http://orgmode.org/w/?p=org-mode.git;a=commitdiff;h=72879342d8ba67fe3b1f3f8cb67f37bfffa1a529
Jambunathan K.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-01 8:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-10 14:56 Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Jambunathan K
2013-03-10 15:04 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-10 22:18 ` Karl Fogel
2013-03-11 1:43 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-11 4:23 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-11 2:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-11 3:14 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-11 5:28 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-03-11 6:00 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-11 6:32 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-11 6:10 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-11 6:41 ` Germán A. Arias
2013-03-11 7:38 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-11 12:53 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-11 14:39 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-11 15:52 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-11 17:58 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-11 19:12 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-11 19:52 ` Subhan Tindall
2013-03-12 2:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-12 5:05 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-03-12 6:12 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-12 6:23 ` A proposal (ox-html.el/ox-odt.el) Jambunathan K
2013-03-12 17:02 ` W. Greenhouse
2013-03-12 18:38 ` Thomas S. Dye
2013-03-13 8:08 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-13 8:18 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-12 6:57 ` Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Jambunathan K
2013-03-12 16:40 ` Subhan Tindall
2013-03-12 16:59 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-13 1:37 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-13 2:04 ` William Gardella
2013-03-13 18:32 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-13 18:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-14 22:30 ` Richard Stallman
2013-04-01 8:32 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-01 21:06 ` W. Greenhouse
2013-04-01 21:35 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-02 13:22 ` Allen S. Rout
2013-04-03 0:06 ` Richard Stallman
2013-04-03 6:50 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-03 8:05 ` Bastien
2013-04-03 8:16 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-03 8:32 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-04-03 8:46 ` Bastien
2013-04-03 9:23 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-04-03 9:58 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-04-03 10:40 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-04-03 14:39 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-03 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-03 16:09 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-03 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-03 16:25 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-03 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-03 16:40 ` Timur Aydin
2013-04-03 16:43 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-03 16:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-03 17:04 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-03 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-03 17:20 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-03 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-03 17:44 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-03 17:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-03 18:27 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-04-03 18:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-04 1:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-04-04 2:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-04 12:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-03 23:10 ` Germán A. Arias
2013-04-04 2:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-04-04 2:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-04 6:16 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-04-03 20:57 ` Emacs community crashes when I try to quit (was: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode)) Allen S. Rout
2013-04-03 21:39 ` Emacs community crashes when I try to quit Karl Fogel
2013-04-03 18:09 ` Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) W. Greenhouse
2013-04-03 8:36 ` Bastien
2013-04-03 8:42 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-03 15:15 ` J. David Boyd
2013-04-03 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-13 19:21 ` Allen S. Rout
2013-03-14 3:08 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-14 11:20 ` Bastien
2013-03-13 22:13 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-14 0:57 ` W. Greenhouse
2013-03-14 10:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-14 16:00 ` W. Greenhouse
2013-03-14 17:01 ` Bastien
2013-03-14 17:09 ` W. Greenhouse
2013-03-14 17:56 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-14 18:53 ` Bastien
2013-03-14 19:29 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-14 15:21 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-14 19:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-14 22:31 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-15 0:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-15 6:39 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-15 12:49 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-15 15:54 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-14 2:20 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-14 15:22 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-14 16:05 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-14 16:11 ` W. Greenhouse
2013-03-14 16:13 ` Ivan Andrus
2013-03-12 0:27 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-12 17:00 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-12 17:48 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-13 1:54 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-11 10:09 ` Christian Egli
2013-03-11 14:13 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-12 20:11 ` Glenn Morris
2013-03-12 20:25 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-12 21:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-13 2:36 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-13 3:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-13 19:35 ` Karl Fogel
2013-03-14 2:44 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-14 2:56 ` W. Greenhouse
2013-03-14 18:03 ` Karl Fogel
2013-04-01 8:03 ` Jambunathan K [this message]
2013-04-01 8:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
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