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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 22564@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22564: Fundamental mode isn't fundamental enough.
Date: 6 Feb 2016 11:06:01 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160206110601.6095.qmail@mail.muc.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3748.1454702408.843.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>

In article <mailman.3748.1454702408.843.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> you wrote:
>> >> electric-indent-mode is the only electric-*-mode on by default, and I
>> >> never understood why it was enabled. Up until bracketed paste was
>> >> implemented, this issue of indenting pastes had been an annoyance (only
>> >> later on did I realize to disable this electric mode).
>> >
>> > I agree.  I disabled it as soon as I encountered it, but I disagree
>> > that users should be subjected to it by default.  Especially in
>> > Fundamental mode.
>> 
>> +1.  Fundamental mode should be Notepad-like as much as possible IMHO.
>> (Incidentally, I almost never use Fundamental mode, exactly because of
>> that.)

> Fundamental mode is not really supposed to be used by users
> interactively, AFAIK.  It should not even have the functionality
> of Notepad.  It is used as an empty inheritance point for other
> modes.  It is the "bottom" of modes. ;-)

I think fundamental mode existed long before derived modes did.  To say
it shouldn't be used directly by users is a bit strange, IMAO.  I use it
fairly often, e.g. when I'm testing, and I want to clear out buffer local
variables from some buffer, or to re-initialise font locking, or
something like that.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).






  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-06 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-05 12:55 bug#22564: Fundamental mode isn't fundamental enough Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-05 14:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 15:13   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-05 15:34     ` Mark Oteiza
2016-02-05 15:38       ` Drew Adams
2016-02-05 17:57         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-05 19:59           ` Drew Adams
2016-02-05 19:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 20:18       ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-06 19:48     ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-05 20:23 ` Glenn Morris
2016-02-05 21:43   ` Glenn Morris
2016-02-05 21:53   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-17  2:50     ` John Wiegley
2022-04-27 14:39       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-01  1:53         ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-01  6:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-02 23:47             ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-03  7:03               ` Andreas Röhler
2022-05-03 14:28                 ` Drew Adams
2022-05-03 17:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-04 22:49                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-05  5:43                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-05 11:02                     ` Andreas Röhler
2022-05-05 16:17                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-05 18:34                         ` Andreas Röhler
2022-05-06 23:20                     ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-07  6:30                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-07 23:08                         ` Richard Stallman
     [not found] ` <mailman.3748.1454702408.843.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-02-06 11:06   ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2016-02-07 18:33     ` Richard Stallman
     [not found] ` <mailman.3712.1454686507.843.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-02-06 11:21   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-06 14:36     ` Mark Oteiza
2016-02-06 16:59 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-07 19:09   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07 21:02 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-07 21:08   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 19:39 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-08 20:05   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 20:18 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-08 20:53   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 21:01 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-09  3:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<20160205125559.GC7727@acm.fritz.box>
     [not found] ` <<834mdnusem.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-02-05 15:36   ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <<mailman.3748.1454702408.843.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <<20160206110601.6095.qmail@mail.muc.de>
2016-02-06 15:57   ` Drew Adams
     [not found]   ` <<E1aSU9T-0002aS-5O@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-02-07 19:43     ` Drew Adams

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