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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, John Wiegley <johnw@gnu.org>,
	22564@debbugs.gnu.org, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
Subject: bug#22564: Fundamental mode isn't fundamental enough.
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2022 16:39:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ee1isi8r.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2wpq4xd70.fsf@newartisans.com> (John Wiegley's message of "Tue,  16 Feb 2016 18:50:27 -0800")

John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> writes:

> I would rather that fundamental-mode be as non-magical as possible also.
> Anything content-aware (like electric indentation) smacks of enriched behavior
> over what is fundamental.

(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
at the time.)

The issue is whether modes like `electric-indent-mode' should be
disabled in fundamental-mode buffers.  But I don't think that disabling
all global minor modes in fundamental-mode will yield a pleasant result,
especially as so many things are now defined as global minor modes.

By default, a fundamental-mode buffer in "emacs -Q" has the following:

Global minor modes enabled: Auto-Encryption Blink-Cursor
Electric-Indent File-Name-Shadow Global-Eldoc Global-Font-Lock
Show-Paren Tooltip Transient-Mark

For instance, we certainly don't want the cursor to not blink in a
fundamental-mode buffer, or not have transient-mark not work.

So I don't think we want to change anything here, and I'm therefore
closing this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-27 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-05 12:55 bug#22564: Fundamental mode isn't fundamental enough Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-05 14:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 15:13   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-05 15:34     ` Mark Oteiza
2016-02-05 15:38       ` Drew Adams
2016-02-05 17:57         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-05 19:59           ` Drew Adams
2016-02-05 19:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 20:18       ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-06 19:48     ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-05 20:23 ` Glenn Morris
2016-02-05 21:43   ` Glenn Morris
2016-02-05 21:53   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-17  2:50     ` John Wiegley
2022-04-27 14:39       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2022-05-01  1:53         ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-01  6:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-02 23:47             ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-03  7:03               ` Andreas Röhler
2022-05-03 14:28                 ` Drew Adams
2022-05-03 17:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-04 22:49                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-05  5:43                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-05 11:02                     ` Andreas Röhler
2022-05-05 16:17                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-05 18:34                         ` Andreas Röhler
2022-05-06 23:20                     ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-07  6:30                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-07 23:08                         ` Richard Stallman
     [not found] ` <mailman.3748.1454702408.843.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-02-06 11:06   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-07 18:33     ` Richard Stallman
     [not found] ` <mailman.3712.1454686507.843.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-02-06 11:21   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-06 14:36     ` Mark Oteiza
2016-02-06 16:59 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-07 19:09   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07 21:02 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-07 21:08   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 19:39 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-08 20:05   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 20:18 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-08 20:53   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 21:01 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-09  3:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<20160205125559.GC7727@acm.fritz.box>
     [not found] ` <<834mdnusem.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-02-05 15:36   ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <<mailman.3748.1454702408.843.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <<20160206110601.6095.qmail@mail.muc.de>
2016-02-06 15:57   ` Drew Adams
     [not found]   ` <<E1aSU9T-0002aS-5O@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-02-07 19:43     ` Drew Adams

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